The Burning Question 28/08/2008

how else do you get to listen to the stuff that makes life worth living...
some people can't afford to buy it all and bands ahve said they'd rather we downloaded than not get to hear it

to be honest, not really, cause karma just punched this guy in the face. i ripped stuff thats already been pre released, and in the end its whether you get caught or not...prolly commenting was me digging a little whole hole

What people don't realise is that the music industry is going to shit, and by downloading music illegally bands aren't making the money they should be making on the sale of their CDs. This means smaller tours, less tours, more expensive tickets for concerts, more expensive merch, etc. Just buy CDs guys!

well, i think if your a true fan you should go out and suport the band by buying the albulm and such. besides i never realy knew how to download the music haha. but yeah i say its not the best thing to do.

It's made me think twice about downloading music illegally but it won't stop me doing it! There's no way I would be able to afford all the music I want to listen to, it's too expensive.

I think illegal downloading is really lame and pathetic. If you loved a bands music so much, wouldn't you just wait for the album to come out and buy it?

It's retarded, i think you can put everybody in jail for doing that, better lock up some real criminals. Music is a medium for all people, some get famous by the internet too and i think when you put somebody in jail for it, where the hell do we end in this world??!!

This Is A Prime Example of the record labels trying to keep its policy's in the stone age..If people released material like Trent Renzor or Radio head there would be none of this illegal downloading and they would still make money... Trent made about $3.5 Million on ghosts ... A mostly free album with that amount of profit doesn't lie...

I'm not interested in illegal downloading at all! If you want to check out a new band for free, use MySpace! If people continue to illegally download things, it will have a knock-on effect on the price of gig tickets! These musicians have to make their money somewhere!!! It's not cheap going into a decent studio and hiring a decent producer!

well ripping a band off is bad enough, but getting caught is just plain stupid. Bands work hard to produce music for us/money. how can one person's arrest stop people from illigally downloading? not that i do...

I never did it, anyway. Downloading music is prety pathetic, and It's a waste of the bands work.

I used to download music illegally but to be honest I've stopped now, I'm a musician myself and if someone was downloaded my bands material illegally I wouldn't really know how to feel about it. But I agree with something Alex Varkatzas from Atreyu said in an interview: "If you can go out and illegally download our album a few days before it comes out go do it, but when the album is released go out and buy it. Help me live."

Yeah, It's made me think twice about illegally downloading. But it's pointless buying a full album for like 10quid if you only like one or two songs? Spose theres always itunes... :/

To be honest, how long have we been waiting for this album to come out? Maybe he was just fed up like the rest of us about having to wait rediculous amounts of time. I buy legally, but when a band takes the piss like this, you can kind of understand why people illegally download.

I think that this guy got caught was the stupid part. Millions of people download illegally. Are they really gonna get caught ? The bands prefer people to hear the music illegally, than not hear it at all. It was one mistake, that's all.

To be honest, how long have we been waiting for this album to come out? Maybe he was just fed up like the rest of us about having to wait rediculous amounts of time. I buy legally, but when a band takes the piss like this, you can kind of understand why people illegally download.

Downloading music is a waste of time, anyway. It's a waste of the bands work.

I buy Cd's o_O And They Are Just As Good And Helps To Fund Your Fave Bands So they Can Do more Tours Ect But to be honest, if people dont know the band they arent just gonna buy the whole cd anyway :s So dowloading helps new comers to get a taste of how good they are :D THEN they will buy the albums ect :]]

It had definately made me think twice about downloading. Illegal downloading is the main reason why alot of older bands like KISS have stopped making new music, the industry is dead. Not only is it illegal to download music for free on programs such as limewire, but you're also ripping off your favourite bands, they're not getting the profit they deserve, because they aren't making the money that they would do if everyone bought music legally for a small price.
I have an itunes account, so I will be buying music legally from now on. :)
THINK TWICE!!

NOW THEY KNOW WHOSE ILLEGALLY DOWNLOADING!!!

I buy Cd's o_O And They Are Just As Good And Helps To Fund Your Fave Bands So they Can Do more Tours Ect But to be honest, if people dont know the band they arent just gonna buy the whole cd anyway :s So dowloading helps new comers to get a taste of how good they are :D THEN they will buy the albums ect :]]

it doesnt really make me think twice cause that guy is clearly bastard for doing a mean thing like that plus for songs to go on peer-to-peer people have to buy them in the first place otherwise how would it get on there !?

Yes of course. How can we expect to hear fresh music and up and coming bands if we are all getting their music for free?

I think it's OK to download one or two songs but obviously it's better to just buy the CD - bands have to make money somehow, and if you really like an artist then you should put your money where your mouth is.

I buy Cd's o_O And They Are Just As Good And Helps To Fund Your Fave Bands So they Can Do more Tours Ect But to be honest, if people dont know the band they arent just gonna buy the whole cd anyway :s So dowloading helps new comers to get a taste of how good they are :D THEN they will buy the albums ect :]]

I buy Cd's o_O And They Are Just As Good And Helps To Fund Your Fave Bands So they Can Do more Tours Ect But to be honest, if people dont know the band they arent just gonna buy the whole cd anyway :s So dowloading helps new comers to get a taste of how good they are :D THEN they will buy the albums ect :]]

I buy Cd's o_O And They Are Just As Good And Helps To Fund Your Fave Bands So they Can Do more Tours Ect But to be honest, if people dont know the band they arent just gonna buy the whole cd anyway :s So dowloading helps new comers to get a taste of how good they are :D THEN they will buy the albums ect :]]

I buy Cd's o_O And They Are Just As Good And Helps To Fund Your Fave Bands So they Can Do more Tours Ect But to be honest, if people dont know the band they arent just gonna buy the whole cd anyway :s So dowloading helps new comers to get a taste of how good they are :D THEN they will buy the albums ect :]]

There is really to points of view on the downloading issue. From my view. Firstly many artists make millions on the records, who needs so much money? if they were donating a percentage to charity id accept it. On the other hand bands should be happy to let people download there music, showing popularity and that people want to hear there music! As long as people are not copying the music in there own band before the albums released i don't see the problem. but for now, i think it will put most people off illegal downloads for a while!

Yes of course. How can we expect to hear new music and up and coming bands if we are all getting their music for free? They aren't millionaires !

I don't think it would stop me downloading, but its not as if i do it often and when i do i always buy the album afterwards anyway and if other people do that i think its ok.

I don't download music anyway but I think 3 years in jail is a bit harsh for something like this.

we have been waiting for this album for years so

i think its abit to harsh

if the record companies did try and rip us off we whouldnt have to "steal" music

we have been waiting for this album for years so

i think its abit to harsh

if the record companies did try and rip us off we whouldnt have to "steal" music

we have been waiting for this album for years so

i think its abit to harsh

if the record companies did try and rip us off we whouldnt have to "steal" music

we have been waiting for this album for years so

i think its abit to harsh

if the record companies did try and rip us off we whouldnt have to "steal" music

I don't think it would stop me downloading, but its not as if i do it often and when i do i always buy the album afterwards anyway and if other people do that i think its ok.

i admit, i download music, but the only reason i do it is because i can't afford to buy the cd, but i usually do later on when i come into some money.
but 3 years in jail,
you can get less for murder, its stupid.

If I download a song, I do it because I've heard it's a good one. I don't feel bad about it at all, 'cause I always end up buying the album anyway. I like having the albums - not just the songs on my computer!

If I went out and bought all the Cd's that I wanted then i would probably have to take out a loan. Downloading is bad but in my case I buy as many cd's as i can at the time. It doesn't help that HMV try charging £16 in store for most of the Cd's. I'm still in school and I don't have enough cash to buy Cd's at that price.

not at all, music is a massive part in peoples lives. and many people can't afford to buy all their music, so will it stop me? no chance

In a way, yes, but in other ways, no. It's free music at the end of the day, and I can't afford to keep buying CD's.

If you love the band enough to want their music then BUY IT!! You should support the bands you love!!!

i spend good money on albums but i download too so not at all, music is a massive part in peoples lives. and many people can't afford to buy all their music, so will it stop me? no chance

Granted, downloading is wrong if it's stealing, and personally I prefer having an actual album in my cd player. But seriously, if I were expected to buy all the stuff I wanted to listen to, I'd be living in the street. Music is so expensive nowadays, so we should be allowed to download if want.

Of course I download music, TV shows as well.

If I like it I buy it if not it gets deleted, don't want crap taking up space on my ipod.

As for TV shows I download so I don't have to endure the truly hateful amount of commercials they have over here.

you are not supporting your band by only buying their cd...you are supporting the suits. go, see them playin live...thats how the band will make a living. and stop moaning about prices of tickets going up. if you love the band, like many of you say you do, you will pay a little more. or buy your artists music directly from them.( just like radiohead did with their latest album.)
music industry as we know it should die completely. there are ways to get your music to your fans. and there are ways to support the artist.
if the guy goes to prison, i really hope, than NO ONE will buy gnr "new" album...what is it, ten years we are waiting now? does anyone care anymore?...

No it really hasn't changed my mind.
Downloading is better than paying over the odds for CDs which the proceeds usually go to the record company over the artists. So I'd rather download the albums and then go to a gig and buy merch. That way the artists get the money.

I think that by sending Kevin Cogill to jail would be to make an example of him & to warn others that illegal sharing and downloading of music shouldn't be tolerated. More and more artists are trying out different solutions such as giving away free albums legally such as Nine inch nails, Radiohead & Mcfly - which increases sales in other areas such as merchandise & live shows. Illegal downloading won't be eradicated for a long time - it fast, convenient & free! If & when Chinese Democracy comes out legally i'm sure there will be some sort of gimmick - releasing it through rock band like Motley Crue? Cogill shouldn't go to jail - i'm sure everyone reading this has downloaded at least one song illegally.

granted ok thses days cd's can cost a bomb when they first come out so people resort to downloading. it definately has made me think twice and i will definately be BUYING chinese democracy when it hits the shelves!

i'd rather download music than buy and album and pay £10 for only one song i like.
besides, bands barely make any money from it, it usually goes to the record produsers.

All these bands spend months working on new albums then people go and downlaod them for free.... piss take. Yea granted prision is too harsh of a punishment... instead just punch him lol..

Hell No! Screw the law! Illegal downloads are the cheap way of gettin all this good music, so one guy got arrested? Millions do it, and the cozzers ain't been to my door.....yet. I'll keep doing it! Who's with me?

I will not stop illegal downloading for anything :)
If they want to complain then pay me to go to college
Because all the money I have has to go on college expenses.
So there.

I understand why people would download music, main reason, CDs cost a bomb these days which really takes the piss. Even though i complain about it, it dosn't stop me from saving my money (which isnt hard to do) and buy the album when i can. Is it really worth getting arrested just save that bit of money for a CD? Obviously it is for that Kevin Cogill.

I would not download music if you paid me because I like to have the physical format.THAT IS ALL.

Bands Need The Praise In There Work, Downloading There Songs Isnt Giving Them The Credit THey Deserve, Yeah Maybe Their Albumns Are £10ish, But They Are Well Worth It. Its Not Cool Lol :]

I have never done any illegal downloading any way but i think you should just go and buy the damn CD if you like the band that much, illegal downloading doesn't help the band anyway. Download normally such as 79p a song is ok, it keeps the band going, if you are a true fan BUY THE DAMN CD!

Well that didn't make me think twice at all. I do it, everyone does it, cause not everyone can afford buying the originals! would i like to buy all my cds? of course! MAKE THEM CHEAPER! 'nough said...

I don't see why people moan about the bands working hard for nothing. they get jack all from album sales, most of their money comes from touring. All the money from album sales goes to the industry, who should die, i download but also buy stuff from time to time. Just doing my bit to fuck over the music industry, they can't catch me because i use encryption.

I dont think people should be arrested or fined for downloading music, because if you could afford the fine you could afford the fucking CD. I think its stupid that hes getting arrested for leaking Chinese Democracy, Axl said it was coming out in spring, but what year?!

Cops dude, they piss me off!.
there are people out there being raped, mugged, and murdered and they give a shit about a guy leaking an album!
do they care about people who've been chopped to bits...
Nooooooo
lets nick the guy who leaked G'n'R's new album.
im not saying its ok but isnt there other things to be worrying about?

I think that because the album has not been released yet makes a big difference. It is going to ruin the anticipation for fans to hear the songs when they first come out. The quality on some songs that are downloaded illegally are absalute rubbish. However, it is a cheaper option but maybe getting arrested is a bit harsh for just listening to some music and sharing it with other people? I can see both sides to the story but at the end of the day, enjoy the fucking music!

I think that because the album has not been released yet makes a big difference. It is going to ruin the anticipation for fans to hear the songs when they first come out. The quality on some songs that are downloaded illegally are absalute rubbish. However, it is a cheaper option but maybe getting arrested is a bit harsh for just listening to some music and sharing it with other people? I can see both sides to the story but at the end of the day, enjoy the fucking music!

I download things from torrent sites and i'll gladly admit to it but only to give it a try.
If i like an album i'll go out and buy it and delete the downloaded version.

I seriously think that Axl is being a pompous git by prosecuting this guy who was probably going to inspire many more people to buy the album like i do.

So in essence he has kicked himself up the arse and lost a lot of money and fans because of him being selfish when he should be proud that people want to desperately hear their new music...

I think that because the album has not been released yet makes a big difference. It is going to ruin the anticipation for fans to hear the songs when they first come out. The quality on some songs that are downloaded illegally are absalute rubbish. However, it is a cheaper option but maybe getting arrested is a bit harsh for just listening to some music and sharing it with other people? I can see both sides to the story but at the end of the day, enjoy the fucking music!

I think that because the album has not been released yet makes a big difference. It is going to ruin the anticipation for fans to hear the songs when they first come out. The quality on some songs that are downloaded illegally are absalute rubbish. However, it is a cheaper option but maybe getting arrested is a bit harsh for just listening to some music and sharing it with other people? I can see both sides to the story but at the end of the day, enjoy the fucking music!

I think that because the album has not been released yet makes a big difference. It is going to ruin the anticipation for fans to hear the songs when they first come out. The quality on some songs that are downloaded illegally are absalute rubbish. However, it is a cheaper option but maybe getting arrested is a bit harsh for just listening to some music and sharing it with other people? I can see both sides to the story but at the end of the day, enjoy the fucking music!

I think that because the album has not been released yet makes a big difference. It is going to ruin the anticipation for fans to hear the songs when they first come out. The quality on some songs that are downloaded illegally are absalute rubbish. However, it is a cheaper option but maybe getting arrested is a bit harsh for just listening to some music and sharing it with other people? I can see both sides to the story but at the end of the day, enjoy the fucking music!

I download things from torrent sites and i'll gladly admit to it but only to give it a try.
If i like an album i'll go out and buy it and delete the downloaded version.

I seriously think that Axl is being a pompous git by prosecuting this guy who was probably going to inspire many more people to buy the album like i do.

So in essence he has kicked himself up the arse and lost a lot of money and fans because of him being selfish when he should be proud that people want to desperately hear their new music...

If people are actual 'TRUE FANS' like hey say they are then why hey hell are you downloading they album... why cant they just wait for the fucking album to come out like they rest of us 'ACTUAL FANS' are doing. and if people are saying they haven't got enough money then ask for it for a birhday pressent or ask a mate can you borrow it theres no need for downloading any music it all sounds crap anyway

No one's gonna fuckin' buy Chinese Democracy anyway.

Okay, everyone should just take a deeeeeep breath, and really think about it... in the big scheme of things. I personally work side by side with musicians daily. As a band photographer, and artist- I understand what it is to sell your soul to the world, and not only that- but be "good" enough that a majority of the people out there can take in the music, and relate emotionally. Yeah- not everyone can afford to purchase music, but not every artist or musician can afford to live without your purchase. Think of all the smaller bands that stick it out in slummy venues, and hock t-shirts and cd's for $5 bucks a pop... ha- they all have day jobs, that money is more than likely going into paying for studio time, or rent. And still they're very lucky that they can even afford to make merch. Few people realize that only a very small handful of people (in the metal, hardcore and prog industry- as that is whom I work with) in music don't have day jobs. And even still- putting together an album requires more people than just the band, and A LOT of time and effort goes into it. As a visual artist, I'm all about purchasing something that I can physically hold in my hand and admire the artwork of the album inside and out. Albums require preparation; the label only gives bands so much money to throw around- so whatever they decide to do- they better make effing awesome. So by leaking any bands music out early- it's like burning a whole a filter on the coffee maker and makes that coffee taste like shit- for everyone. It just doesn't brew right- ya dig?
I'm a starving artist, I can barely afford to pay my bills and my student loan... but knowing that my musician friends went through the exact same thing to get where they are today... I respectfully purchase my albums. Hell yeah that guy should go to jail... he stole someone's (if not many people) soul and tossed it out like a cigarette butt near a dry field. America's MTV generation is so ignorant.

im not to hyped about the new album. if it was the original GnR line it up it would be a different story axl is dead on his own.

Not really music is a freedom of expression and that is a right not a privilege so the fans shouldn't have to pay or it shouldn't be completely illegal anyway

I personally do not like illeagal downloading, but record stores are to expensive and my local one only sells mainstream pop CD's, so sometimes downloading is the only way.

For sure the arrest of Kevin Cogill has made me think twice about illegal music downloads.
As tempting as it is, if its a new album release then its bad (for music in general) to download illegally - musicians need to live too! However, am torn on how illegal it is to download an album thats been around for a while... sometimes you just cant find what you looking for in stores, making illegal downloads a convenient option.

i will think twice before downloading i didnt realise it was that much of an offence 2 serve 5 years!, i now see it as a form of stealing music, and i must admit 2 doing it before but i dont wanna risk getting arrested and being un popular with a great band, not worth it!

i will think twice before downloading i didnt realise it was that much of an offence 2 serve 5 years!, i now see it as a form of stealing music, and i must admit 2 doing it before but i dont wanna risk getting arrested and being un popular with a great band, not worth it!

i will think twice before downloading i didnt realise it was that much of an offence 2 serve 5 years!, i now see it as a form of stealing music, and i must admit 2 doing it before but i dont wanna risk getting arrested and being un popular with a great band, not worth it!

i will think twice before downloading i didnt realise it was that much of an offence 2 serve 5 years!, i now see it as a form of stealing music, and i must admit 2 doing it before but i dont wanna risk getting arrested and being un popular with a great band, not worth it!

i will think twice before downloading i didnt realise it was that much of an offence 2 serve 5 years!, i now see it as a form of stealing music, and i must admit 2 doing it before but i dont wanna risk getting arrested and being un popular with a great band, not worth it!

i will think twice before downloading i didnt realise it was that much of an offence 2 serve 5 years!, i now see it as a form of stealing music, and i must admit 2 doing it before but i dont wanna risk getting arrested and being un popular with a great band, not worth it!

i dont ileagally download stuff but what an ass hole! its not as if we cant wait for the album to come out coz its not that long i dont think :s but yeah theres no point in downloading from the internet if it makes you go to jail.

i dont ileagally download stuff but what an ass hole! its not as if we cant wait for the album to come out coz its not that long i dont think :s but yeah theres no point in downloading from the internet if it makes you go to jail.

I think it does u should not be able to download music from limewire or bit torrenrt becouse its making music bussiness bad theres to many downloads if u want to listen to a song go buy the single or the album i dont download i think its wrong to bands taht put there money or there life into there music so i think they should ban illegal downloading

I think it does u should not be able to download music from limewire or bit torrenrt becouse its making music bussiness bad theres to many downloads if u want to listen to a song go buy the single or the album i dont download i think its wrong to bands taht put there money or there life into there music so i think they should ban illegal downloading

Is this really the FBI trying to get the people who admit to downloading? Is it really??

I'l only ever download music if I am either

1) too impatient to wait for it to be released
2) haven't been paid yet to go buy it
3) too lazy to go out into the amazing british weather to find it.

But generally, I'll end up feeling guilty and go buy the real deal. Then I can act all high and mighty when I look at my cd collection expanding!

This is really a trap to get us all to admit we download music so we can all be thrown in the slammer, isn't it?

This is really a trap to get us all to admit we download music so we can all be thrown in the slammer, isn't it?

shouldn't the police be focusing on more important matters like murder and shit than worrying about someone who has a few extra songs that they shouldn't have?

how did he manage to get hold of it in 1st palce? from what he said he was an ex employee.. maybe im missing sumthing

well i cant comment fully cos i still reading up app he was found via you tube. However

prehaps the music industry shopuld start being more tighter of the music vault( i shall call it) and not leak them themselves.

Also music shops should stock what there actually meant to instead of dvd's games...etc.

the times i have gone in to buy an album only to find its no longer available , also finding that i can no longer buy singles cos the shop has done away with them.

some people cant even afford to buy music fullstop so i think it is quite pathetic to put him in prison because of that. on the other hand, it cant be that hard to go out and buy a cd can it?

there are too many good bands at the moment. Its hard to buy all the records which come out, you have to download music if you want to keep up to date, I don't think this is going to effect much people

i buy a bands cd if i already know them and want to support them. but im still gonna download if i only like 1 song...

Not it hasn't really.
I mean some bands only have a few good songs so buying the album would be a total waste of money.
I only buy albums if I know and love the band.

not really i think its stupid really at the end of the day locking someone up for something like downloading music or leeking songs is stupid there should be a different way of dealing with them other than prison no wonder the prison system are over crowded!

I don't download music, as a fan of bands I want to own the actual CD and support them, without ripping them off. I know it can be expensive to buy all the CDs you want, but you can listen to a lot of music online now, wether on myspace or whatever. Plus if it's a band I kinda like but don't wanna spend like £10-12 then I just buy em on ebay, they're much cheaper.

its good if you are poor but if your not it is just a waste of a band's time and money

metallica is the best band ever

Can't be arsed with downloading. I'd rather have the CD, at least then you don't have to turn on your computer to listen to it, and you actually have something there that's cool to look at, instead of a file on a screen.

To be honest, I think its a bit pathetic he's going to jail just because he's put music on the internet, surely all the people who have downloaded it aswell deserve something done to them. But yeah, maybe we should just put a virus in all the songs on the internet and then everyone would get well gutted and learn a lesson.

I don't download illegal stuff, I have and iTunes voucher, get me. Plus I prefer having the CD because you get all the cool leaflets and stuff, so much more fun that downloading rubbish stuff which you could get caught doing!

Bands get popular off downloading bottom line. Concert sales are still high even though cd sales may be low. So either way the actual band is making money instead of some lazy cd exec telling a band how to dress and perform so he can make money

Guns N' Roses died the day Axl's ego expanded and he sacked Slash and Duff. I think he's doing us all a favour and saving our ears from his wannabe-old-GNR music.

Axl = shit.

Not really.
These people go to all the trouble of uploading the music, we might as well make it worth while and download it!

Well, this isnt really going to stop anything is it?, if someone wants to download the music then this isnt going to stop them. GnR will never be the same, and i think Axl is just trying to get more attention on his work, and hopefully one day he'll realise that nobody actually gives a damn!
And you spelt Bittorrent wrong, theres no P in it :)
x

ha! that guy should be giving a freakin medal not a jail sentence, Axl Rose should be jailed for making everyone wait so long!

Some will never realize how illegal downloading hurts bands. They will speak of how they cannot afford to buy a band's albumso they resort to downloading songs illegally. The truth is if I don't have the money to buy it then I probably don't need it. If people would shop around online they will find that they can actually get it cheaper then the cost of it in a store with legal music download websites. If someone truly loves a band then you want to ensure that they will be around to make more good music. They can't do that if the album isn't being bought legitimately. However, I don't think a person will stop until they get caught. If one song/album is worth three years then make sure it's damn good one before you download it.