'Goth' jailed for 'chav' murder

A 'goth' was jailed yesterday for kicking a 'chav' to death.

20 year old Terry Sewell, of no fixed address, was sentenced to life at Winchester Crown Court following an attack on 19-year-old Jed Sheridan after a boozy night out in Portsmouth last October.

Sewell and friends Darren Abrams and Ryan Cuthbert-Asplett were involved in an altercation with Sheridan and two of his friends in Norway Road just after midnight on October 26, 2007. Sewell and Abrams reportedly beat and kicked Sheridan (pictured) because they feared they were going to be 'viciously attacked' by him.

According to police reports, Abrams smashed a bottle over Sheridan’s head and Sewell repeatedly kicked him in the face as he lay on the ground. Sheridan, who refused medical help at the scene, died of head injuries sustained in the attack at home later that evening.

Prosecutor Timothy Mousley QC said that Sewell bragged to friends the next day that he'd kicked Sheridan in the head saying "Don't worry - it's just another chav."

"He said he was not upset for Jed Sheridan because he had a strong disliking for chavs," continued Mousley.

The court was told that co-defendant Abrams hanged himself while on remand in prison in December last year.

Jailing Sewell for life, judge Mr Justice Roderick Evans concluded:

"This was mindless, drunken violence. You and Darren Abrams had an unhealthy interest in fighting. It is the kind of stupid violence decent people see as a blight on towns and cities. I accept there was no intention to kill but there was an intention to do serious harm."


 
Posted by Dan at 12:57PM | August 1, 2008

I wouldn't be suprised if this was self defence gone too far, i bet the chavs started on them but they reascted way too fiercely

Posted by Luke | August 1, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply to this
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probally was self defence

chavs always start fights n wen they get it back they cry

Posted by Damian | August 1, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply to this
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i agree.
all i got to say.

Posted by HomesickAtSpacecamp | August 1, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply to this
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i agree.
all i got to say.

Posted by HomesickAtSpacecamp | August 1, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply to this
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teza or terry was a theif and a trouble maker i know as i did know him but i chose not to associate myself with him he deserves to be where he is and he always liked to cause trouble i saw him and a friend start a fight with a homeless person once

chavs are a problem but if we start acting like them, then wer just as bad

Posted by ..... | August 1, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply to this
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I agree, chavs are annoying but the best we can do is ignore them and not sink to their level.

Posted by Jess | August 5, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply to this
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thats really bad!

Posted by mary | August 2, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply to this
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If chavs weren't so fucking lairy and thought they were the fucking dogs bollocks then we wouldn't have this issue.

Chavs are knobs, it's not intelligent to carry knives, smoke 60 a day and beat your wife. You live in a council house for a reason, it's because you deserve nothing better because you're all scum.

Another example, watch Jeremy Kyle/Trisha in the mornings. All chavs who have the issues, nobody else.

Visit a prison for a day, i will put money on it being 95% chav.

All the killings in London this year - ALL CHAVS KILLING THE VICTIMS.

Abuse me if you like, but you know I'm right.

Posted by Matt | August 2, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply to this
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erm....

excuse me??? i agree with what you say about chavs....have dealt with a few myself but wtf? Everyone in council houses are scumbags? i live in a council house.... and i'm not scum just short of money. i still bring my kids up to be individuals and know right from wrong. what a fucking ridiculous statement. Not everyone has a trust fund from mummy and daddy.....

Posted by miss_murder | August 4, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply to this
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RE: Matt's comment

Excuse me, Matt! It's statements like that that virtually started the Holocaust sixty years ago. My fucking FRIEND, who is one of the NICEST PEOPLE I KNOW, lives in a fucking council house and it's not because she's a chav, it's because she's a part of a single-parent family with low income! Chavs may be annoying and sometimes arsey, but YOU'RE the scum, making comments like that. Why don't you visit prison for a fucking day and see if it is, as you say, "95% chav"? How do you know they're all chavs who were involved in the killings - did you witness them yourself? No. So shut the fuck up or get a fucking brain and stop talking utter shit because believe me, sweetie, you'll get no-where in life with comments like that.

Posted by Caitlin | August 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply to this
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saying that though...on jeremy kyle the other day there was an emo woth anger mangement problems

Posted by cam | August 14, 2008 5:13 AM | Reply to this
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The twat got what he deserved.Chav or not killing someone is never justified,hope he rots in jail,scumbag

Posted by scott eaton | August 3, 2008 12:21 AM | Reply to this
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agreed

i agree totaly i mean wtf are these people on about a chav is a person he was a human and that twat kicked him to death because he looked diffrent and all these twats on here going he dressed difrent he deserved it isnt that what Hitler did to anyone who was not german ?

Posted by Jack | August 10, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply to this
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FUCKED UP!

If Sewell feared that the chav was goin to attack him then cross the fuckin street or something...jesus, just by reading this i can tell that hes fucked up in the mind

Posted by predator k | August 3, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply to this
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How is smashing a bottle over someone's head and kicking them while they're on the ground sefl defence?

Tomorrows story: Kerrang Readers, Officially Thick As Sh*t

Posted by Ipper | August 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply to this
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FEAR MY MYSTIC MEG POWERS

It probably was self-defence but everyone's gonna ignore that fact, the papers are gonna jump on it and say OMG GOTHS ARE DANGEROUS! BAN ALL GOTHS!

Posted by gerge | August 1, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply to this
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FEAR MY MYSTIC MEG POWERS

Then we'll end up like Russia, with emo and goth banned from everything ever :|

Posted by C | August 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply to this
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i agree probs just aelf defence gone way to far..but im not surprised cz chavs start on me all the time..

and i agree..the papers always target goths and emos etc..its not fair when most of the time its the chavs that do the gun crimes..!!! lol

Posted by MyChemicalFrank | August 1, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply to this
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people are going to take this too far saying goths and emos are violent and dangerous and will probably be labeled as doing the things chavs are known for and the whole world will be turned upside down! i reckon the newspapers are full of chavs themselves as they target goths and emos but never chavs.

But to be honest, today must be a slow newsday at kerrang as this doesnt actually have anything to do with rock lol!

Posted by Banging The Doldrums | August 1, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply to this
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Seriously.. how many attacks on emo and goth have there been when chavs get away with it? How many goths and emos will have to die to prove that they arent the only ones that are dangerous?

What i think this proves is that there are dangerous people in ever clique and stereotype, but watch this one get blown way out of proportion to blame the goths and emos.

Posted by me | August 1, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply to this
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This is just as bad as when goths/rockers/emos whatever get attacked by 'chavs'. I find it interesting that people are mitigating this when they'd be up in arms if it was the other way around.

It is never justified to assault, injure or kill another person, no matter which group you belong to. The sooner everyone realises that, the better.

Posted by The Toad | August 1, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply to this
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Here Here!

Posted by Bert | August 2, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply to this
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Emos/Goths are chavs in black!

Im not a chav.. i just think some people need a reality check.

This guy sounds like a tosser anyway and deserves to be jailed.. "He said he was not upset for Jed Sheridan because he had a strong disliking for chavs"... COCK

i dislike chavs.. but i wouldnt kick them in the face... i like how everyone is jumping to the conclusion of self defence... FFS.. take responsibility for your actions!

PS.. i thought all pompey people are scallys ;)

Posted by Tom | August 1, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply to this
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i think everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions. and its unfair to label people everyone is their own and choose to do what they do.

Posted by jodi troman | August 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply to this
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i think everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions. and its unfair to label people everyone is their own and choose to do what they do.

Posted by jodi troman | August 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply to this
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tell that to russia

Posted by poopface | August 1, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

how would you know
you wernt there either
you dont know either of the guys
or Jed
you dont know there history

im sorry if that sounded aggressive and i know violance isnt right
how'ever you dont know the cercumstances and i would appreichate it if you didnt try say that they were bad people.
because i believe that unless you know them you cant judge them.
I know who my friends are
and i know what they're like and they would go out intentionally to kill or crate trouble.
Just because Jed died from that injury doesn mean they went out with an intention to kill. And just to update you Jed wasnt just in that fight that night, no he went out and started on someone else too. So you know. Please dont try to say that it was all there faulty because thats how it came across tbh.

take care

Posted by Vickie | August 1, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

u obvs dnt knwwht u r tlkin about. jed was nt in any prvious fights... i fink u may ve ur facts wrng... it is terry and darren who apparently had a violent backgrnd

Posted by k | August 3, 2008 3:05 AM | Reply to this
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fighting

for your info terry didnt have a violent background infact this was terrys 1st affence. if you was in court as i was it was told by 3 fully trained medical experts that nothing terry did in this fight could have coursed or contributed to jeds death, and it was solely the bottle that darren used on jed that killed him. terry did not get done for murder he got charged with murder by joint adventure. and that wasnt till darren hung himself , would ppl be so harsh on terry if darren hadnt hung himself and stoad trial like terry did, i think terrys sentance would have been extreamly lower. you have no right to judge terry remember he is the one who is serving a 13year sentance for another mans crime.

Posted by maria | February 14, 2009 3:54 AM | Reply to this
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fighting

I agree with you...fully

Posted by Aaron | August 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

Why is it that everyone on here is saying that it was self defence? were you all there? The problem is this, Violence is wrong in any shape or form...PERIOD!!!!
I lived in a small village for most of my life and it was full of trendies as they were called then ( I'm now 35) and there was only about 5 rockers in the village. If we ever had any problems we just walked away. Why is it that people who are the victims of abuse can't just do this. My thinking is this... 2 wrongs don't make a right.....and if drinking beer or any other alcohol makes you violent then the answer is DON'T DRINK IT THEN!!!!!

Posted by pete | August 1, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

So, if you got your ass beaten on someone, you wouldn't fight back because all violence is wrong, you'd just let your ass get beaten to a pulp

Posted by jyuiy | August 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply to this
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fighting

If you can't figure out that someone is being aggressive towards you then you must be a very young child! I think most people can tell when they are being verbally abused and it could lead to a violent attack. At that point you just walk away not when the aggressor gets next to you. I thought that would have been very obvious to figure out.
The main thing is to say is "That all violence is wrong and shouldn't happen" It doesn't matter if you're a goth,emo kid, rocker,punk,mod,scooter boy or even chav. We're all human and are the same inside, Blood and bone.
"UP THE IRONS!!!"

Posted by pete | August 5, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply to this
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What a pile of Shit!!!!


It nothing to do with if you are a Chav or Goth or Metal head or Emo. Its to do with the state of mind of the individual. Just another scape goat Blame Goth's, Blame Chav's, blame the parents, blame society or blame his bad distrubed childhood. Its all a load of shite

He murdered him because more than likely he is a twat who was unstable. The fact he was a Goth and the person he murdered was a chav makes no feckin difference. At the end of the day he murdered someone else and should do the time for it. There is no justification just because he was a Goth.

UP THE IRONS!!!!!

Posted by Metal Matty | August 1, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply to this
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What a pile of Shit!!!!

Well said. You can't judge a person's fighting instincts on their label. However the murderer had only himself to blame.

Posted by The Next Big Thing! | August 1, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply to this
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What a pile of Shit!!!!

Smartest thing I've read here. Good on you!

Posted by bulletsizehummingbird | August 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply to this
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well..

It's about time we stood up against those cocksucking twatbags, i thank the goth for what he/she did.

So we took the murder of a goth by the hands of chavs but we don't take a death of a chav by the hands of goths?

About fucking time the chavs got cut down i say, about fucking time!

Posted by dragonforce | August 1, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply to this
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well..

Victims of the Attack
if you didnt notice there are two victims

and it takes too to fight.

two lives were lost in this.
and there was no intention to kill

take care

Posted by vickie | August 1, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply to this
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well..

This boy, Jed, was my friends best friend. He was a peace maker and a all round nice guy.
He wore trackies. so he is a chav?

'About fucking time the chavs got cut down i say, about fucking time!'

You disgusting human being! To say that about someone you never even met, about a group of people you dont understand.

Chavs, Goths, emos dont fucking esist. Just ignorant idiots like you, who catagorise people based on what they wear and the music they listen to.
Grow up!

Posted by Hannah | August 3, 2008 2:43 AM | Reply to this
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Missing the Point

Are you not all missing the point a little bit? This is still a human life. Perhaps the chav had started the fight, but to assume that and disrespect him is very unfair.

Yea the majority of attacks are from chavs to emos or goths, but to group all the chavs as being violent thugs in very unfair.

Any killer, deserves to do life unless the choice really was "kill or be killed".

I am not a chav, very far from it, but just think everyone should show a little respect for the victim of this attack.

One fear, could this provoke revenge attacks on emos and goths?

Posted by Adam | August 1, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply to this
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Missing the Point

You cannot decide that this was self defence without knowing all of the facts.
Maybe you should also all consider that the judge has sentenced this man to LIFE in prison. They don't tend to do this if there is any element of doubt as to whether it was self defence or whether it was an intentional attack.
Also, everyone seems to have missed the fact that this lad was on his own and was attacked by more than one person. Now ive seen some pretty stupid things but I dont think ive ever seen anyone stupid enough to pick a fight where they are greatly outnumbered!
Unfortunately a boy has died - and that's what he is - a boy, and another boy will now spend life behind bars as a result of senseless alcohol enduced violence. A lesson to all perhaps? Know your limits with regards to alcohol and respect people regardless of how you would stereotype people. No two Chavs are the same in the same way that no to Emos or Goths etc. are the same.
We are all individual and the world would be a much better place if people woke up and realised this!

* Jamie * - A metalhead, emo, goth, chav, skater, prep etc...

Posted by * Jamie * | August 1, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply to this
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Missing the Point

We are agreeing right? That it's unfair on the victim of this attack to asume the goth was acting in self defence without having proof that it was?

Sorry if I'm not making myself very clear, but just to confirm I am on the side of the victim.

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Missing the Point

where the hell have you heard he was on his own.
he wasnt. Jed went out that night with his lads
and if you dont know it was self defence or not then dont assume.

oh and not just one guy died love
Two lost their lives.
have sympathy for both families

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Missing the Point

Do you really expect us to feel the same for the guy that killed himself? I feel more for his family, as they have lost him twice, once when he killed, once when he commited suice.

But this guy assisted in killing someone in cold blood, kicking someone in the face when they're on the floor?

Yes attacks exactly the same happen to emos, fortunately I've only received verbal abuse from chavs, but since when did it become fair game to kill someone for what "social group" they belong to? Whether they be chavs, emos or goths?

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It was only a matter of time before this happened... To be honest, it doesn't really surprise me.

Posted by Loz | August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply to this
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Just goes to show... it is not the type of clothes someone wears it is the attitude they have. These actions are just as disgusting and the ones that many "Chavs" have taken against "Goths".

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Guess it works two ways then.

Posted by Kyle. | August 1, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply to this
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Its all a fucking big joke to me...

To be honest,
I wish we could all just get along...
It fucks me right off this whole Label thing...

Just wait till the papers start off now,
It'll be "Oh my god!, Goths shouldn't be on streets!" What a load of shit .

From Lauren :)

Posted by Lauren Yepp :) | August 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply to this
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he kinda deserved it cuz he woz a chav and chavs always pick on goths and emos, so now its about time that they got a taste of their own medicine

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so you judge everything on image do you?
because ALL chavs must die?
ever stop to think that in every stereotype, everyone is still an individual.
there is always a person involved, not a stereotype, i suggest that you dont judge unless you actually knew the people involved because not all chavs are the same

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Chavs Always Start Shit With 'Goths' And 'Greebos' Whatever They Wanna Call Them ... They Treat Them Like Shit.
But What I Don't Get It ... A Goth Gets Jailed For Life For Killing A Chav ... But What About Them Chavs Who Killed Sophie, They Just Got So Many Years, It's Soo Stupid, No Wonder Chavs Think They Rule The Place !

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its because goths, grunges emos etc wont stand up to the police or give them as much hassle, therefore most of the bent cops around thesedays, instead of taking it out on the ones who are causing the trouble, decide to aprehend a bunch of underage goths who are having drink and not causing trouble in a park or nicking a group of grunges for graffitti just so they can say that they are doing there jobs without getting any hassle, the authorities are scared of chavs which is why no one is actually doing anything about it

Posted by thecazmaster | August 1, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply to this
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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Terry Was my best friend, and for once i am glad theres some comments about this that agree it was self defence. I hate the fact the media are portraying teza in such a bad light when we all know what chavs are like. They said teza had a disliking for chavs, yet they never asked why, maybe if they had they would have reolise that he was beaten into a coman infront of me and all his friends by a group of chavs with D-locks. Teza is innocent. Yes Jed's life was a loss but we lost darren (abrams) and now he have lost teza too. The justice system is screwed in this country. Teza should be free to live his life. It was provent hat Darrens bottle to the head was the cause so how does that carry murder, it should be manslaughter at the very most. Thank you everyone here for your positive comments. xx

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Terry Was my best friend, and for once i am glad theres some comments about this that agree it was self defence. I hate the fact the media are portraying teza in such a bad light when we all know what chavs are like. They said teza had a disliking for chavs, yet they never asked why, maybe if they had they would have reolise that he was beaten into a coman infront of me and all his friends by a group of chavs with D-locks. Teza is innocent. Yes Jed's life was a loss but we lost darren (abrams) and now he have lost teza too. The justice system is screwed in this country. Teza should be free to live his life. It was provent hat Darrens bottle to the head was the cause so how does that carry murder, it should be manslaughter at the very most. Thank you everyone here for your positive comments. xx

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Terry Was my best friend, and for once i am glad theres some comments about this that agree it was self defence. I hate the fact the media are portraying teza in such a bad light when we all know what chavs are like. They said teza had a disliking for chavs, yet they never asked why, maybe if they had they would have reolise that he was beaten into a coman infront of me and all his friends by a group of chavs with D-locks. Teza is innocent. Yes Jed's life was a loss but we lost darren (abrams) and now he have lost teza too. The justice system is screwed in this country. Teza should be free to live his life. It was provent hat Darrens bottle to the head was the cause so how does that carry murder, it should be manslaughter at the very most. Thank you everyone here for your positive comments. xx

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

They FEARED they were going to be attacked, so they smashed a bottle over Jed's head and kicked him about. Unprovoked. This subsequently led to his death. Therefore, its murder.

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

They FEARED they were going to be attacked - not attacked first, as you're making out - so they smashed a bottle over Jed's head and kicked him about. Unprovoked. This subsequently led to his death. Therefore, its murder.

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

You dont know the history

It was not murder
and anyone else who knows Tezza or knew Darren or was there or anything like that should know that it is not MURDER!

Thanks for all the posotive comments from others

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Well, the prosecution managed to prove it to a jury of his peers.

When someone in on the floor they are no longer a threat to you. There is no reason to ever kick someone in the head when they are on the floor!!

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It's absolutely disgusting how some people have justified this attack 'because they do the same to us'. Everyone of course remembers the tragic death of Sophie lancaster last year. Terry Sewell's behaviour is just as appalling as the 'chavs' who took part in that attack, if not worse, the entire rock community tries to pride itself on being different from the rest of the crowd and just laugh at the people who don't understand, This person has gone and decided that it's okay to go and murder someone because they are different, he cant be called a 'Goth' because he isn't, if we really are going to use social labels, then he is quite blatantly a 'chav'. As for the people who have read this article and agree with what he has done, you should take a long hard look at yourselves, murder is never justified.

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Well...

I love how people who DONT (not the above comment) know this kid are saying "I bet it was self-defence". They don't know. Discrimination / prejudice works both ways. To be honest, chavs do start more fights and cannot accept people who are in a different "click" to themselves. However, I know goths who start fights with immigrants...so...you know.

Anyway - I am not saying "he deserved it" or "it was self defence", the media will portray him as he wishes. Point is - its HIS fault the kid died, if he was kicking him to death, he didnt have to keep going that long!

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NO-ONE deserves to be murdered, Its small minded people who use labels that are encouraging this shit, everyone has the right to live their life the way they want to, fuck everybody else, those who have a problem with it and those who feel the need to comment on their lifestyle when it has fuck all to do with them, need to respect others choices, I am well aware of the crap that goes on but we all are entitled to live a happy life be it as a 'chav' or a 'goth'. Sophie Lancaster had this right as much as Jed Sheridan, you're a fucking asshole if you believe ANYONE deserves to be murdered.

Posted by chemicalvijo | August 1, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply to this
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Also. in regards to *Jamie* Missing the point

You are missing the point. yet again people beleieve what the media tell them. it was a fair fight, three on three. now maybe you will fucking understand. also, just to clear something else up, Darren Abrams killed himself. Myself and his friends had to bury someone aswell so maybe you should take that into consideration too yeah?. Chavs are a nusence to society. i agree that labels are pointless. but thats just the way it is and we need to accept it. nothings ever going to change. Ive come to reolise that no matter how much you want it to chavs are never going to be a dying breed. This would be a totally different case if it was a chav not teza, hed have gotten a slap on the wrist and gone home to celebrate with all the other walking abortions. I mean come on, chavs think that asbo's and tags are something to be proud of?

Teza and Darren made a mistake, it was a FAIR fight that got out of hand. Teza is NOT murderer and anyone that thinks so is very misguided. If it wasnt for those wankers that lied in court things would be very different.

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Also. in regards to *Jamie* Missing the point

Prove that people lied in court, I didn't read anything about that, and don't give me the "it's obvious." Don't say something without hard evidence to back it up.

I am a metal head, I dress like a goth, I have had trouble with people not liking the way I dress, okay, fine. Lets not go stereotyping "chavs" though. I am friends with many "chavs" and have no problems, in addition, I know alot of "goths", me included, take the mickey out of "chavs", how they live, dress etc. It's most deffinatly not a one sided thing, It is also not new. Look back to the 60's. Mods and rockers. Go back even further, there has always been conflicts between different groups. Peopl always think it's so new, but it's not, at all.

The guy 3 up "a goth" has got it right. And Jamie Ayrton. However, Kate Jones above me here, back up your arguments, otherwise it's sh*t. "If he was a chav, he would of got a slap on the wrist and that's it." I am sorry love but that's not how the justice system works, it doesn't always work that well, true, but it doesn't work the way you describe.
THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
Also, violence and killing are rarely justified. Self defence, yes, however we are not given info about that here, many people are jumping to "it was obviously self defence". Well sorry, but you can't get that from this story, stop making your own versions of the story.

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Steroetyping all chavs doesn't help your case.

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so the fact that it was provoked has nothign to do with it at all and that both sides were as bad as eachother

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Also. in regards to *Jamie* Missing the point

This must be hard for you to read, all these people talking about your friends like they're monsters, and I can't pretend I understand how you feel.

But your friends smashed a bottle on someone's head then kicked them in the face, surely you can see how that is nothing but murder.

You obviously no more about this case than any of us, so please what are the lies that were told in court?

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Maybe?

Maybe It Wasn't Self Defence,So Now Can't A 'Goth' Just Be Voilent.Why Does It Always Have To Be 'Chavs' Who Are The Voilent Ones?

I Mean the Guy Got Kicked To Death!I Do Feel Sympathy For The Other Guy To But Still.

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Maybe?

how would you know what Tezza (Terry, Sorry) is

if he is anything i tell you now he is not a cold blooded murderer

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I find it quite interesting that loads of peope above me are saying "self defence". If it was the other way around, and if Sewell had died, people would be up in arms about it, like when Sophie died.

I'm not saying that chavs are better than goths, or visa versa, or that Sewell is a cold-blooded killer, I'm just pointing out that little detail.

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I tied to comment but it wouldnt.

Chavs are less accepting, but Chavs are not the only prejudice ones

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Just Wait

All the newpapers (cough THE DAILY MAIL cough) are gonna go all "Goths are bad! jail them all they want to kill everything!!!"

Just wait.

It's a shit world >.<

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Why does it matter if the murderer was a Goth? Why was that important to mention? Do we live in a world where anyone can be summed up in one word. I'm stick of this allowable prejudice how if someone is a Goth you can sum them up in three words or less the same with chavs and all the others. How can someone say "Chav always start fights," is that much better than saying, "Emos slit their wrists,"? You shouldn't judge someone just because they have been branded Chav or Goth or anything else.

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Jed didnt die because of 'the way he dressed' why say that.

All this about chavs and goth is only because Terry alliedigly said 'ohy dont worry its just another chav'

now if you've read the paper you should notice it kept repeating allegidly
therefore meaning theres a possibility is isnt true!

he didnt die because of the way he dressed.

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Anyone who even dares to slightly justify this are absolutely despicable - its murder, just cos he was a chav doesn't make it right. Its not goth kills chav - its one human killing another. Goth and chav are simply labels.

A significant number of you have such hatred of chavs that it clouds your view so much that you're blind to the truth. I've not had the best of times with chavs, being a metal fan, but my disliking doesn't extend to such hatred that I wish to kill.

Sophie Lancaster didn't deserve to die cos of the way she dressed - and neither did Jed Sheridan. The way people keep reporting this is gonna lead to war on the streets. The media have a duty to remember this when using labels such as goth and chav, and you have a duty to remember what is wrong and what is right.

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what the heck

it is not about chavs or emos it is about murder. you can't just say that. in kerrang there are comments about chavs killing emos or Goths

it sounds menacing . when they say 'Goth' jailed for 'chav' murder. i could be for more personal reason not just because goth are meant to bad guys.

i think this boy should be given a fair trail instead of putting in for life.

and can people stop labeling people. it is really getting on my nerves

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Too MUch Violence

Mean I don't like chavs myself! But I would not kill one! Mean I get abit of shit from chavs for being a metal head!

But Now I fear because one guy who claims to be a goth the papers are going to take that one incident and say that Goths are all violent!
MEan I though I t was sick that when those chavs killed Sophie lancaster and the whole point of the charity set up in her name is to stop things like this happening to anyone!
As I said I don't like chavs at all but I don't resort to violence to solve that problem! Chavs seem to do it alot we do not need to go down to their level!

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omg!

why does everyone blame the poor chav! just coz he was a chav doesn't mean he started the fight!!!!!!
i'm not a chav but thats just my opinion! :S

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omg!

why does everyone blame the poor chav! just coz he was a chav doesn't mean he started the fight!!!!!!
i'm not a chav but thats just my opinion! :S

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omg!

He didnt die because he was a chav!
how naive is that!

you dont know the hiostory

dont assume

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:(

i cant believe how nasty people really are....


it makes me very sad to realise what this world is comming to it truely is comming to an end... soon enough we'll all be trying to kill each other for the sake of money,love, drugs whatever else i cant believe the excuse was for his actions is "he was a chav" we are all no different from each other although we all try to be different.....some people state of minds is just so sickening if people are actually agreeing and thanking the person who killed another human being because he was a chav then seriously... quite frankly get yourself some medical help you seriously need it

the world really is a cruel place to live in and i hope to god none of this happens to any of your family

take care :)

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well said!

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This is what the SOPHIE foundation is about.
Half of the above comments seem to be defending the "goth" because the other person involved was "chav".

Another person is dead due to mindless stereotyping.

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oh for fucks sake

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Stereotypes work and destroy in both ways

This is the Sophie Lancaster story in reverse... Its just as bad, just as insane and just as horrible for all involved.

Maybe this will make people see that labels and stereotypes never lead to anything good. A lot of people on this site who claim to be open-minded are eager to slate "chavs" and say they're all scum/they're all knife-wielding vermin... But it doesnt matter how people dress, what music they listen to, what lifestyle they follow, its their actions and treatment of others that count.

RIP Jed Sheridan - another victim of prejudice. Im not saying his killers weren't victims too - but they shouldnt have killed him. Can we not move forward as a society?!

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Chavs in the news

I read a comment earlier saying chavs aren't shown in newspapers but goths/metals/emos are whenever they attack someone. Its because chavs are Always attacking people and are always in the news because they've killed/shot/stabbed someone again. Goth/emo/metal attacks are rare and that's why they make such a big deal out of it.
On another issue, I think this topic interests a wide range of people and is why its been published.
It was clearly manslaughter, not murder, but had I been in his position I wouldn't have kicked him in the face; if I was really threatened by him I'd have either left the scene or if he really was going to attack me I'd incapacitate him and leave (ie: a kick to the nuts or taking his legs out).
But different people have different views.

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How was it obviously a case of manslaughter? He was hit with a glass bottle. Then kicked in the face while on the ground. That's not an accident.

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Murder would warrant that they went out with the intent of killing the person. If the guy was still breathing when they left and still had the capacity to refuse treatment, they surely hadn't intended to kill him. If they had he would have had glass bottle stab wounds in him and they'd not have left him breathing.

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Nope. If he'd still been breathing, it would be attempted murder. Murder doesn't always require premeditation.

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Well as I said earlier, different people have different views but that he was able to refuse treatment suggests being able to talk/move about etc... I still go with my earlier opinion.
Being drunk aswell showed they wasn't thinking straight anyhow.

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its not about different people having different opinions, its the law.
it doesnt really matter if you think theyll survive what youve just done to them, if they die, you murdered them, wether or not you were standing there when they died.
how many people do you know that think straight when they murder somebody anyway? if they were thinking straight, then it would have been premeditated, cuz if you can destroy a life, and everybody elses lives who are conected with that person for no other reason than you wanted to, then your one fucked up person if you ask me.
he wasnt thinking straight. big deal. he killed somebody.
nobody can justify that.
doesnt matter if the person who did it wasnt normally violent, or they were acting in self defence, if you kill somebody and then (alledgedly) go brag about it the next day when youve probably sobered up, you obviously didnt care about what you did in the first place.
maybe he didnt intend to kill him, but the fact that he could even think that battering somebody senseless is something to be proud about is not a good reflection of his character.

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Sophie

Dont even get me started on Sophie Lancaster... because of her emo is now seen as a "suicide cult" and Russia is looking to ban emo and goth music (which is more likely a triggered excuse for something they have been planning for a long time).
I was so close to going to the protest in London and I wish I had now.

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Sophie

Bwuh? Sophie Lancaster isn't even vaguely associated with emo. Are you thinking of Hannah Bond?

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Sophie

Hannah Bond, I'm sincerely sorry.

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Im a goth and i also have a strong disliking for chavs, but i really wouldnt kick one to death! this war between goths and chavs has gone on for too long now and im quite sick of it, as much as i hate chavs i don't pick fights with them, i treat them how they treat me! if they shout retarded comments at me i WILL shout back, but i don't wanna fight with them im utterly sick of this!!

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meh

drunken fucks attack goths, drunken fucks attack chavs
fucking drunks, all a bunch of cunts

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He is a murderer

he murdered somebody, kinda makes you a murderer folks. Just because he listens to Slipknot doesn't make it acceptable

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He is a murderer

he murdered somebody, kinda makes you a murderer folks. Just because he listens to Slipknot doesn't make it acceptable

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Grr

Just because he was a 'Goth' doesn't mean it doesn't matter, the victim may have been dressed like a chav but that doesn't mean he was planning on attacking the 'goths'. Stereotyping is wrong in ALL aspects. I have loads of chav friends, and I have loads of Goth friends, it doesn't mean they hate eachother, they just see things differently and actually, they do get along.

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When to stop

Jed walked away didnt he

they didnt leave himthere bleeding to death did they

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"good
serves that CHAV right

Posted by ? | August 2, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply to this"

spare a thought for the guys family and friends!? never thought this guy was an actual human being did you? idiot. after that stupid comment, i hope a member of your family dies so you can experience first hand how devastating it really is.

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Social Wars? or just drunk antics

Ok we all know what the score is, Goths/rockers/emo's etc and Chav's have a big problem with eachother there is no doubt about that but as many people have already said its nothing to do with what group you 'belong' to or the music you listen to (Screw you Russia) its all about the person you are

Alot of you also say this is self-defence, well that may be but who continuously kicks someone in the face to defend themselves, nothing stops knocking them down then running.

another point is that the so called 'chav' didnt agree to medical help at the scene which could have saved his life. This could have been a great factor in this case as brutalityplayed a big part in this, being kicked several times in the face, thats kicking when there down and thats just immoral.

so my final word is that although this MAY have been self defence, everyong knows when to stop. Its just up to them to know when defending yourself has gone too far.

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No Violence

As much as we all probably think 'these chavs should get a taste of their own medicine', this is just stooping down to their own pathetic level.
This sounded like self defence as chavs always ussually start a fight, but to kill anyone is just as mindless as any of those dickhead chavs.
It dosen't matter whether someone is emo/goth/chav/metalhead etc., a life should never be taken. Otherwise we're no better than them.


ps: i bet the papers are all over this now saying the emo/goth 'cult' are evil twisted murderers. lol, i can't wait to hear responses to that on here.
BRING IT ON!

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you really think thats right to kill someone because of there label

Darren and Terry didnt kill him because oh his label

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YAS - KILL THE CHAVS ^^

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Newsflash love
he's in jail

and unless you were there you cant say tis murder or not

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WTF!

WTF are loads of ppl sayin its the chavs fault and tht it was prob self defence

when an emo is killed by a chav its the chavs fault but when a chav is killed by an emo it still the chavs fault

come on! he murdered sum1 and should go 2 jail

i dont particular lik chavs but this is stereotypin gone 2 far not all chavs start fight and no 1 her knos it was self the defence

its goin 2 be his automatic defence that he was actin in self defence how else could he try 2 justifie himself

unless any1 here knos Jed sheridan they cant say he starts fight 4 no reason

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WTF!

i did know jed sheridan, and i can truthfully say that he was not a fighter, he was always the 1 to try and calm dwn a situ n keep the peace. he always kept to himself n tried 2 stay out of trbl.

And to vickie and katie jones, i wasnt there that night and neither were you so it is wrong for both of us 2 judge wht happened tht night, ur obvs gunna stick up 4 ur friend and me 2 do the same for mine. and i honestky do fink it is a crying shame tht two lives ave been taken in a result and a 3rd ruined... also the pain n suffering tht the friends n families of each parties have had 2 go through this including urselves and myself.

and i wish people wud stop making asumptions and blaming it on supid things.... no one except the people involved truely knw wht happened tht night, and why it started and why it had 2 end the way it did. and all this sterotyping is driving me mad

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this shit is getting fucking ridiculous. that 'emo' kid's suicide, that 'goth' girls death and now this, just because somebody wants a different style?

what is the big fucking deal with people's looks? people need to get the fuck over what people look like and grow the fuck up.

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^_^

Too be honest, when I first read the article I thought that it was a bit overexaggerated. It was a brutal attack, but I know the medias capabilities and they ALWAYS make things sound worse than they actually are. They make sympathy for the person who got hurt and they make the person doing the hurting sound like a really evil guy. I really think that this was a paranoid attack gone to far. They may have thought it was self-defence but it was probably feeding their paranoid thoughts and stereotypes of what they thought this 'Chav' was going to do.

Thus the moral of the story is, drinking and attacking is not a good mix, things go way to far. I am very non-alcohol, its ok in small quantities but it seems that most people let their thirst for the stuff make them violent.

I don't know the attacker or the victim and I wasn't their so I can only imagine whats happened, but as a victim of attacks and have a boyfriend who has several stab wounds on his back from being attacked in a dark allyway by a 'Chav' I just think that this feud has gotten out of hand. These things must stop before we have a civil war on our hands. It could very well happen, theres enough hatred between the two groups to create one!!!

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THIS HAS NUTHIN TO DO WITH ROCK!!!

as i said earlier, this is not to do with rock. I am not trying to say that murder is not important, and that this story is not important, but this is kerrang, not the independent forum. Also, people should learn not to judge people if you do not know the full story. and this is coming from an emo kid!

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finally

finally a chav killed by a goth, personaly im sick fo the no nonsence rubbish chavs give me all the time. ah well does this country a favor one less person to be on the dole.

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Okay, so somone got killed by a goth
whats the big deal?
someone got murdered, and just because a goth killed a chav, perople dont think its important
i hate chavs, however, i dont feel that jsut because people have different interests they should murder each other.
there was probably something the chav did to provoke the goth, but still, it doesnt make it right

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Wow... we are finally taking a stand against the chavs! I can't say it was a very good way of doing it though, beating up a guy who did nothing to them first.

And the guy who died refused medical attention, AFTER he was kicked in the head?? That is slightly worrying, if you get kicked in the head you should get checked out anyway!

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do you know what a kick in the face can do to your mind? it really fucks you up, you dont think straight and you end up, because your not actually able to think properly, believing that your ok when you not.
tbh his mates should have forced him to go to hospital and get checked out. if i was in that situation thats what id want. for the people i trust to make the right decision despite what i say.
even if its a breach or personal liberty or whatever the fuck people call it.
if youve been battered, i dont think you should have any say in what happens to you really, because your probably not so good at the coherency thing so how can you know whats best?

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i didn't know what a "chav" was, but i've looked upon the term on the inet, we've got those types of kids, here in portugal.. they really are Problem starters... and they only start problems if they are like 20 vs 5 or 10... when alone, they're the tiniest piece of shit upon earth... though that a person got killed, that's shit... but this chav pussies, should be all incarcerated. peace out

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