'Goth' jailed for 'chav' murder

A 'goth' was jailed yesterday for kicking a 'chav' to death.

20 year old Terry Sewell, of no fixed address, was sentenced to life at Winchester Crown Court following an attack on 19-year-old Jed Sheridan after a boozy night out in Portsmouth last October.

Sewell and friends Darren Abrams and Ryan Cuthbert-Asplett were involved in an altercation with Sheridan and two of his friends in Norway Road just after midnight on October 26, 2007. Sewell and Abrams reportedly beat and kicked Sheridan (pictured) because they feared they were going to be 'viciously attacked' by him.

According to police reports, Abrams smashed a bottle over Sheridan’s head and Sewell repeatedly kicked him in the face as he lay on the ground. Sheridan, who refused medical help at the scene, died of head injuries sustained in the attack at home later that evening.

Prosecutor Timothy Mousley QC said that Sewell bragged to friends the next day that he'd kicked Sheridan in the head saying "Don't worry - it's just another chav."

"He said he was not upset for Jed Sheridan because he had a strong disliking for chavs," continued Mousley.

The court was told that co-defendant Abrams hanged himself while on remand in prison in December last year.

Jailing Sewell for life, judge Mr Justice Roderick Evans concluded:

"This was mindless, drunken violence. You and Darren Abrams had an unhealthy interest in fighting. It is the kind of stupid violence decent people see as a blight on towns and cities. I accept there was no intention to kill but there was an intention to do serious harm."


 
Posted by Dan at 12:57PM | August 1, 2008

I wouldn't be suprised if this was self defence gone too far, i bet the chavs started on them but they reascted way too fiercely

Posted by Luke | August 1, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply to this
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probally was self defence

chavs always start fights n wen they get it back they cry

Posted by Damian | August 1, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply to this
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i agree.
all i got to say.

Posted by HomesickAtSpacecamp | August 1, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply to this
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i agree.
all i got to say.

Posted by HomesickAtSpacecamp | August 1, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply to this
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teza or terry was a theif and a trouble maker i know as i did know him but i chose not to associate myself with him he deserves to be where he is and he always liked to cause trouble i saw him and a friend start a fight with a homeless person once

chavs are a problem but if we start acting like them, then wer just as bad

Posted by ..... | August 1, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply to this
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I agree, chavs are annoying but the best we can do is ignore them and not sink to their level.

Posted by Jess | August 5, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply to this
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thats really bad!

Posted by mary | August 2, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply to this
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If chavs weren't so fucking lairy and thought they were the fucking dogs bollocks then we wouldn't have this issue.

Chavs are knobs, it's not intelligent to carry knives, smoke 60 a day and beat your wife. You live in a council house for a reason, it's because you deserve nothing better because you're all scum.

Another example, watch Jeremy Kyle/Trisha in the mornings. All chavs who have the issues, nobody else.

Visit a prison for a day, i will put money on it being 95% chav.

All the killings in London this year - ALL CHAVS KILLING THE VICTIMS.

Abuse me if you like, but you know I'm right.

Posted by Matt | August 2, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply to this
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erm....

excuse me??? i agree with what you say about chavs....have dealt with a few myself but wtf? Everyone in council houses are scumbags? i live in a council house.... and i'm not scum just short of money. i still bring my kids up to be individuals and know right from wrong. what a fucking ridiculous statement. Not everyone has a trust fund from mummy and daddy.....

Posted by miss_murder | August 4, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply to this
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RE: Matt's comment

Excuse me, Matt! It's statements like that that virtually started the Holocaust sixty years ago. My fucking FRIEND, who is one of the NICEST PEOPLE I KNOW, lives in a fucking council house and it's not because she's a chav, it's because she's a part of a single-parent family with low income! Chavs may be annoying and sometimes arsey, but YOU'RE the scum, making comments like that. Why don't you visit prison for a fucking day and see if it is, as you say, "95% chav"? How do you know they're all chavs who were involved in the killings - did you witness them yourself? No. So shut the fuck up or get a fucking brain and stop talking utter shit because believe me, sweetie, you'll get no-where in life with comments like that.

Posted by Caitlin | August 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply to this
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saying that though...on jeremy kyle the other day there was an emo woth anger mangement problems

Posted by cam | August 14, 2008 5:13 AM | Reply to this
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The twat got what he deserved.Chav or not killing someone is never justified,hope he rots in jail,scumbag

Posted by scott eaton | August 3, 2008 12:21 AM | Reply to this
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agreed

i agree totaly i mean wtf are these people on about a chav is a person he was a human and that twat kicked him to death because he looked diffrent and all these twats on here going he dressed difrent he deserved it isnt that what Hitler did to anyone who was not german ?

Posted by Jack | August 10, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply to this
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FUCKED UP!

If Sewell feared that the chav was goin to attack him then cross the fuckin street or something...jesus, just by reading this i can tell that hes fucked up in the mind

Posted by predator k | August 3, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply to this
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How is smashing a bottle over someone's head and kicking them while they're on the ground sefl defence?

Tomorrows story: Kerrang Readers, Officially Thick As Sh*t

Posted by Ipper | August 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply to this
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FEAR MY MYSTIC MEG POWERS

It probably was self-defence but everyone's gonna ignore that fact, the papers are gonna jump on it and say OMG GOTHS ARE DANGEROUS! BAN ALL GOTHS!

Posted by gerge | August 1, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply to this
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FEAR MY MYSTIC MEG POWERS

Then we'll end up like Russia, with emo and goth banned from everything ever :|

Posted by C | August 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply to this
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i agree probs just aelf defence gone way to far..but im not surprised cz chavs start on me all the time..

and i agree..the papers always target goths and emos etc..its not fair when most of the time its the chavs that do the gun crimes..!!! lol

Posted by MyChemicalFrank | August 1, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply to this
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people are going to take this too far saying goths and emos are violent and dangerous and will probably be labeled as doing the things chavs are known for and the whole world will be turned upside down! i reckon the newspapers are full of chavs themselves as they target goths and emos but never chavs.

But to be honest, today must be a slow newsday at kerrang as this doesnt actually have anything to do with rock lol!

Posted by Banging The Doldrums | August 1, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply to this
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Seriously.. how many attacks on emo and goth have there been when chavs get away with it? How many goths and emos will have to die to prove that they arent the only ones that are dangerous?

What i think this proves is that there are dangerous people in ever clique and stereotype, but watch this one get blown way out of proportion to blame the goths and emos.

Posted by me | August 1, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply to this
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This is just as bad as when goths/rockers/emos whatever get attacked by 'chavs'. I find it interesting that people are mitigating this when they'd be up in arms if it was the other way around.

It is never justified to assault, injure or kill another person, no matter which group you belong to. The sooner everyone realises that, the better.

Posted by The Toad | August 1, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply to this
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Here Here!

Posted by Bert | August 2, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply to this
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Emos/Goths are chavs in black!

Im not a chav.. i just think some people need a reality check.

This guy sounds like a tosser anyway and deserves to be jailed.. "He said he was not upset for Jed Sheridan because he had a strong disliking for chavs"... COCK

i dislike chavs.. but i wouldnt kick them in the face... i like how everyone is jumping to the conclusion of self defence... FFS.. take responsibility for your actions!

PS.. i thought all pompey people are scallys ;)

Posted by Tom | August 1, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply to this
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i think everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions. and its unfair to label people everyone is their own and choose to do what they do.

Posted by jodi troman | August 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply to this
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i think everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions. and its unfair to label people everyone is their own and choose to do what they do.

Posted by jodi troman | August 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply to this
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tell that to russia

Posted by poopface | August 1, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

how would you know
you wernt there either
you dont know either of the guys
or Jed
you dont know there history

im sorry if that sounded aggressive and i know violance isnt right
how'ever you dont know the cercumstances and i would appreichate it if you didnt try say that they were bad people.
because i believe that unless you know them you cant judge them.
I know who my friends are
and i know what they're like and they would go out intentionally to kill or crate trouble.
Just because Jed died from that injury doesn mean they went out with an intention to kill. And just to update you Jed wasnt just in that fight that night, no he went out and started on someone else too. So you know. Please dont try to say that it was all there faulty because thats how it came across tbh.

take care

Posted by Vickie | August 1, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

u obvs dnt knwwht u r tlkin about. jed was nt in any prvious fights... i fink u may ve ur facts wrng... it is terry and darren who apparently had a violent backgrnd

Posted by k | August 3, 2008 3:05 AM | Reply to this
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fighting

for your info terry didnt have a violent background infact this was terrys 1st affence. if you was in court as i was it was told by 3 fully trained medical experts that nothing terry did in this fight could have coursed or contributed to jeds death, and it was solely the bottle that darren used on jed that killed him. terry did not get done for murder he got charged with murder by joint adventure. and that wasnt till darren hung himself , would ppl be so harsh on terry if darren hadnt hung himself and stoad trial like terry did, i think terrys sentance would have been extreamly lower. you have no right to judge terry remember he is the one who is serving a 13year sentance for another mans crime.

Posted by maria | February 14, 2009 3:54 AM | Reply to this
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fighting

I agree with you...fully

Posted by Aaron | August 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

Why is it that everyone on here is saying that it was self defence? were you all there? The problem is this, Violence is wrong in any shape or form...PERIOD!!!!
I lived in a small village for most of my life and it was full of trendies as they were called then ( I'm now 35) and there was only about 5 rockers in the village. If we ever had any problems we just walked away. Why is it that people who are the victims of abuse can't just do this. My thinking is this... 2 wrongs don't make a right.....and if drinking beer or any other alcohol makes you violent then the answer is DON'T DRINK IT THEN!!!!!

Posted by pete | August 1, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply to this
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fighting

So, if you got your ass beaten on someone, you wouldn't fight back because all violence is wrong, you'd just let your ass get beaten to a pulp

Posted by jyuiy | August 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply to this
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fighting

If you can't figure out that someone is being aggressive towards you then you must be a very young child! I think most people can tell when they are being verbally abused and it could lead to a violent attack. At that point you just walk away not when the aggressor gets next to you. I thought that would have been very obvious to figure out.
The main thing is to say is "That all violence is wrong and shouldn't happen" It doesn't matter if you're a goth,emo kid, rocker,punk,mod,scooter boy or even chav. We're all human and are the same inside, Blood and bone.
"UP THE IRONS!!!"

Posted by pete | August 5, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply to this
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What a pile of Shit!!!!


It nothing to do with if you are a Chav or Goth or Metal head or Emo. Its to do with the state of mind of the individual. Just another scape goat Blame Goth's, Blame Chav's, blame the parents, blame society or blame his bad distrubed childhood. Its all a load of shite

He murdered him because more than likely he is a twat who was unstable. The fact he was a Goth and the person he murdered was a chav makes no feckin difference. At the end of the day he murdered someone else and should do the time for it. There is no justification just because he was a Goth.

UP THE IRONS!!!!!

Posted by Metal Matty | August 1, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply to this
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What a pile of Shit!!!!

Well said. You can't judge a person's fighting instincts on their label. However the murderer had only himself to blame.

Posted by The Next Big Thing! | August 1, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply to this
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What a pile of Shit!!!!

Smartest thing I've read here. Good on you!

Posted by bulletsizehummingbird | August 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply to this
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well..

It's about time we stood up against those cocksucking twatbags, i thank the goth for what he/she did.

So we took the murder of a goth by the hands of chavs but we don't take a death of a chav by the hands of goths?

About fucking time the chavs got cut down i say, about fucking time!

Posted by dragonforce | August 1, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply to this
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well..

Victims of the Attack
if you didnt notice there are two victims

and it takes too to fight.

two lives were lost in this.
and there was no intention to kill

take care

Posted by vickie | August 1, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply to this
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well..

This boy, Jed, was my friends best friend. He was a peace maker and a all round nice guy.
He wore trackies. so he is a chav?

'About fucking time the chavs got cut down i say, about fucking time!'

You disgusting human being! To say that about someone you never even met, about a group of people you dont understand.

Chavs, Goths, emos dont fucking esist. Just ignorant idiots like you, who catagorise people based on what they wear and the music they listen to.
Grow up!

Posted by Hannah | August 3, 2008 2:43 AM | Reply to this
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Missing the Point

Are you not all missing the point a little bit? This is still a human life. Perhaps the chav had started the fight, but to assume that and disrespect him is very unfair.

Yea the majority of attacks are from chavs to emos or goths, but to group all the chavs as being violent thugs in very unfair.

Any killer, deserves to do life unless the choice really was "kill or be killed".

I am not a chav, very far from it, but just think everyone should show a little respect for the victim of this attack.

One fear, could this provoke revenge attacks on emos and goths?

Posted by Adam | August 1, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply to this
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Missing the Point

You cannot decide that this was self defence without knowing all of the facts.
Maybe you should also all consider that the judge has sentenced this man to LIFE in prison. They don't tend to do this if there is any element of doubt as to whether it was self defence or whether it was an intentional attack.
Also, everyone seems to have missed the fact that this lad was on his own and was attacked by more than one person. Now ive seen some pretty stupid things but I dont think ive ever seen anyone stupid enough to pick a fight where they are greatly outnumbered!
Unfortunately a boy has died - and that's what he is - a boy, and another boy will now spend life behind bars as a result of senseless alcohol enduced violence. A lesson to all perhaps? Know your limits with regards to alcohol and respect people regardless of how you would stereotype people. No two Chavs are the same in the same way that no to Emos or Goths etc. are the same.
We are all individual and the world would be a much better place if people woke up and realised this!

* Jamie * - A metalhead, emo, goth, chav, skater, prep etc...

Posted by * Jamie * | August 1, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply to this
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Missing the Point

We are agreeing right? That it's unfair on the victim of this attack to asume the goth was acting in self defence without having proof that it was?

Sorry if I'm not making myself very clear, but just to confirm I am on the side of the victim.

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Missing the Point

where the hell have you heard he was on his own.
he wasnt. Jed went out that night with his lads
and if you dont know it was self defence or not then dont assume.

oh and not just one guy died love
Two lost their lives.
have sympathy for both families

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Missing the Point

Do you really expect us to feel the same for the guy that killed himself? I feel more for his family, as they have lost him twice, once when he killed, once when he commited suice.

But this guy assisted in killing someone in cold blood, kicking someone in the face when they're on the floor?

Yes attacks exactly the same happen to emos, fortunately I've only received verbal abuse from chavs, but since when did it become fair game to kill someone for what "social group" they belong to? Whether they be chavs, emos or goths?

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It was only a matter of time before this happened... To be honest, it doesn't really surprise me.

Posted by Loz | August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply to this
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Just goes to show... it is not the type of clothes someone wears it is the attitude they have. These actions are just as disgusting and the ones that many "Chavs" have taken against "Goths".

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Guess it works two ways then.

Posted by Kyle. | August 1, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply to this
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Its all a fucking big joke to me...

To be honest,
I wish we could all just get along...
It fucks me right off this whole Label thing...

Just wait till the papers start off now,
It'll be "Oh my god!, Goths shouldn't be on streets!" What a load of shit .

From Lauren :)

Posted by Lauren Yepp :) | August 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply to this
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he kinda deserved it cuz he woz a chav and chavs always pick on goths and emos, so now its about time that they got a taste of their own medicine

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so you judge everything on image do you?
because ALL chavs must die?
ever stop to think that in every stereotype, everyone is still an individual.
there is always a person involved, not a stereotype, i suggest that you dont judge unless you actually knew the people involved because not all chavs are the same

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Chavs Always Start Shit With 'Goths' And 'Greebos' Whatever They Wanna Call Them ... They Treat Them Like Shit.
But What I Don't Get It ... A Goth Gets Jailed For Life For Killing A Chav ... But What About Them Chavs Who Killed Sophie, They Just Got So Many Years, It's Soo Stupid, No Wonder Chavs Think They Rule The Place !

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its because goths, grunges emos etc wont stand up to the police or give them as much hassle, therefore most of the bent cops around thesedays, instead of taking it out on the ones who are causing the trouble, decide to aprehend a bunch of underage goths who are having drink and not causing trouble in a park or nicking a group of grunges for graffitti just so they can say that they are doing there jobs without getting any hassle, the authorities are scared of chavs which is why no one is actually doing anything about it

Posted by thecazmaster | August 1, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply to this
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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Terry Was my best friend, and for once i am glad theres some comments about this that agree it was self defence. I hate the fact the media are portraying teza in such a bad light when we all know what chavs are like. They said teza had a disliking for chavs, yet they never asked why, maybe if they had they would have reolise that he was beaten into a coman infront of me and all his friends by a group of chavs with D-locks. Teza is innocent. Yes Jed's life was a loss but we lost darren (abrams) and now he have lost teza too. The justice system is screwed in this country. Teza should be free to live his life. It was provent hat Darrens bottle to the head was the cause so how does that carry murder, it should be manslaughter at the very most. Thank you everyone here for your positive comments. xx

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Terry Was my best friend, and for once i am glad theres some comments about this that agree it was self defence. I hate the fact the media are portraying teza in such a bad light when we all know what chavs are like. They said teza had a disliking for chavs, yet they never asked why, maybe if they had they would have reolise that he was beaten into a coman infront of me and all his friends by a group of chavs with D-locks. Teza is innocent. Yes Jed's life was a loss but we lost darren (abrams) and now he have lost teza too. The justice system is screwed in this country. Teza should be free to live his life. It was provent hat Darrens bottle to the head was the cause so how does that carry murder, it should be manslaughter at the very most. Thank you everyone here for your positive comments. xx

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Terry Was my best friend, and for once i am glad theres some comments about this that agree it was self defence. I hate the fact the media are portraying teza in such a bad light when we all know what chavs are like. They said teza had a disliking for chavs, yet they never asked why, maybe if they had they would have reolise that he was beaten into a coman infront of me and all his friends by a group of chavs with D-locks. Teza is innocent. Yes Jed's life was a loss but we lost darren (abrams) and now he have lost teza too. The justice system is screwed in this country. Teza should be free to live his life. It was provent hat Darrens bottle to the head was the cause so how does that carry murder, it should be manslaughter at the very most. Thank you everyone here for your positive comments. xx

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

They FEARED they were going to be attacked, so they smashed a bottle over Jed's head and kicked him about. Unprovoked. This subsequently led to his death. Therefore, its murder.

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

They FEARED they were going to be attacked - not attacked first, as you're making out - so they smashed a bottle over Jed's head and kicked him about. Unprovoked. This subsequently led to his death. Therefore, its murder.

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

You dont know the history

It was not murder
and anyone else who knows Tezza or knew Darren or was there or anything like that should know that it is not MURDER!

Thanks for all the posotive comments from others

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Terry Sewell Is NOT A Murderer!

Well, the prosecution managed to prove it to a jury of his peers.

When someone in on the floor they are no longer a threat to you. There is no reason to ever kick someone in the head when they are on the floor!!

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It's absolutely disgusting how some people have justified this attack 'because they do the same to us'. Everyone of course remembers the tragic death of Sophie lancaster last year. Terry Sewell's behaviour is just as appalling as the 'chavs' who took part in that attack, if not worse, the entire rock community tries to pride itself on being different from the rest of the crowd and just laugh at the people who don't understand, This person has gone and decided that it's okay to go and murder someone because they are different, he cant be called a 'Goth' because he isn't, if we really are going to use social labels, then he is quite blatantly a 'chav'. As for the people who have read this article and agree with what he has done, you should take a long hard look at yourselves, murder is never justified.

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Well...

I love how people who DONT (not the above comment) know this kid are saying "I bet it was self-defence". They don't know. Discrimination / prejudice works both ways. To be honest, chavs do start more fights and cannot accept people who are in a different "click" to themselves. However, I know goths who start fights with immigrants...so...you know.

Anyway - I am not saying "he deserved it" or "it was self defence", the media will portray him as he wishes. Point is - its HIS fault the kid died, if he was kicking him to death, he didnt have to keep going that long!

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NO-ONE deserves to be murdered, Its small minded people who use labels that are encouraging this shit, everyone has the right to live their life the way they want to, fuck everybody else, those who have a problem with it and those who feel the need to comment on their lifestyle when it has fuck all to do with them, need to respect others choices, I am well aware of the crap that goes on but we all are entitled to live a happy life be it as a 'chav' or a 'goth'. Sophie Lancaster had this right as much as Jed Sheridan, you're a fucking asshole if you believe ANYONE deserves to be murdered.

Posted by chemicalvijo | August 1, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply to this
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Also. in regards to *Jamie* Missing the point

You are missing the point. yet again people beleieve what the media tell them. it was a fair fight, three on three. now maybe you will fucking understand. also, just to clear something else up, Darren Abrams killed himself. Myself and his friends had to bury someone aswell so maybe you should take that into consideration too yeah?. Chavs are a nusence to society. i agree that labels are pointless. but thats just the way it is and we need to accept it. nothings ever going to change. Ive come to reolise that no matter how much you want it to chavs are never going to be a dying breed. This would be a totally different case if it was a chav not teza, hed have gotten a slap on the wrist and gone home to celebrate with all the other walking abortions. I mean come on, chavs think that asbo's and tags are something to be proud of?

Teza and Darren made a mistake, it was a FAIR fight that got out of hand. Teza is NOT murderer and anyone that thinks so is very misguided. If it wasnt for those wankers that lied in court things would be very different.

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Also. in regards to *Jamie* Missing the point

Prove that people lied in court, I didn't read anything about that, and don't give me the "it's obvious." Don't say something without hard evidence to back it up.

I am a metal head, I dress like a goth, I have had trouble with people not liking the way I dress, okay, fine. Lets not go stereotyping "chavs" though. I am friends with many "chavs" and have no problems, in addition, I know alot of "goths", me included, take the mickey out of "chavs", how they live, dress etc. It's most deffinatly not a one sided thing, It is also not new. Look back to the 60's. Mods and rockers. Go back even further, there has always been conflicts between different groups. Peopl always think it's so new, but it's not, at all.

The guy 3 up "a goth" has got it right. And Jamie Ayrton. However, Kate Jones above me here, back up your arguments, otherwise it's sh*t. "If he was a chav, he would of got a slap on the wrist and that's it." I am sorry love but that's not how the justice system works, it doesn't always work that well, true, but it doesn't work the way you describe.
THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
Also, violence and killing are rarely justified. Self defence, yes, however we are not given info about that here, many people are jumping to "it was obviously self defence". Well sorry, but you can't get that from this story, stop making your own versions of the story.

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Steroetyping all chavs doesn't help your case.

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so the fact that it was provoked has nothign to do with it at all and that both sides were as bad as eachother

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Also. in regards to *Jamie* Missing the point

This must be hard for you to read, all these people talking about your friends like they're monsters, and I can't pretend I understand how you feel.

But your friends smashed a bottle on someone's head then kicked them in the face, surely you can see how that is nothing but murder.

You obviously no more about this case than any of us, so please what are the lies that were told in court?

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Maybe?

Maybe It Wasn't Self Defence,So Now Can't A 'Goth' Just Be Voilent.Why Does It Always Have To Be 'Chavs' Who Are The Voilent Ones?

I Mean the Guy Got Kicked To Death!I Do Feel Sympathy For The Other Guy To But Still.

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Maybe?

how would you know what Tezza (Terry, Sorry) is

if he is anything i tell you now he is not a cold blooded murderer

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I find it quite interesting that loads of peope above me are saying "self defence". If it was the other way around, and if Sewell had died, people would be up in arms about it, like when Sophie died.

I'm not saying that chavs are better than goths, or visa versa, or that Sewell is a cold-blooded killer, I'm just pointing out that little detail.

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I tied to comment but it wouldnt.

Chavs are less accepting, but Chavs are not the only prejudice ones

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Just Wait

All the newpapers (cough THE DAILY MAIL cough) are gonna go all "Goths are bad! jail them all they want to kill everything!!!"

Just wait.

It's a shit world >.<

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Why does it matter if the murderer was a Goth? Why was that important to mention? Do we live in a world where anyone can be summed up in one word. I'm stick of this allowable prejudice how if someone is a Goth you can sum them up in three words or less the same with chavs and all the others. How can someone say "Chav always start fights," is that much better than saying, "Emos slit their wrists,"? You shouldn't judge someone just because they have been branded Chav or Goth or anything else.

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Jed didnt die because of 'the way he dressed' why say that.

All this about chavs and goth is only because Terry alliedigly said 'ohy dont worry its just another chav'

now if you've read the paper you should notice it kept repeating allegidly
therefore meaning theres a possibility is isnt true!

he didnt die because of the way he dressed.

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Anyone who even dares to slightly justify this are absolutely despicable - its murder, just cos he was a chav doesn't make it right. Its not goth kills chav - its one human killing another. Goth and chav are simply labels.

A significant number of you have such hatred of chavs that it clouds your view so much that you're blind to the truth. I've not had the best of times with chavs, being a metal fan, but my disliking doesn't extend to such hatred that I wish to kill.

Sophie Lancaster didn't deserve to die cos of the way she dressed - and neither did Jed Sheridan. The way people keep reporting this is gonna lead to war on the streets. The media have a duty to remember this when using labels such as goth and chav, and you have a duty to remember what is wrong and what is right.

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what the heck

it is not about chavs or emos it is about murder. you can't just say that. in kerrang there are comments about chavs killing emos or Goths

it sounds menacing . when they say 'Goth' jailed for 'chav' murder. i could be for more personal reason not just because goth are meant to bad guys.

i think this boy should be given a fair trail instead of putting in for life.

and can people stop labeling people. it is really getting on my nerves

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Too MUch Violence

Mean I don't like chavs myself! But I would not kill one! Mean I get abit of shit from chavs for being a metal head!

But Now I fear because one guy who claims to be a goth the papers are going to take that one incident and say that Goths are all violent!
MEan I though I t was sick that when those chavs killed Sophie lancaster and the whole point of the charity set up in her name is to stop things like this happening to anyone!
As I said I don't like chavs at all but I don't resort to violence to solve that problem! Chavs seem to do it alot we do not need to go down to their level!

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omg!

why does everyone blame the poor chav! just coz he was a chav doesn't mean he started the fight!!!!!!
i'm not a chav but thats just my opinion! :S

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omg!

why does everyone blame the poor chav! just coz he was a chav doesn't mean he started the fight!!!!!!
i'm not a chav but thats just my opinion! :S

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omg!

He didnt die because he was a chav!
how naive is that!

you dont know the hiostory

dont assume

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:(

i cant believe how nasty people really are....


it makes me very sad to realise what this world is comming to it truely is comming to an end... soon enough we'll all be trying to kill each other for the sake of money,love, drugs whatever else i cant believe the excuse was for his actions is "he was a chav" we are all no different from each other although we all try to be different.....some people state of minds is just so sickening if people are actually agreeing and thanking the person who killed another human being because he was a chav then seriously... quite frankly get yourself some medical help you seriously need it

the world really is a cruel place to live in and i hope to god none of this happens to any of your family

take care :)

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well said!

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This is what the SOPHIE foundation is about.
Half of the above comments seem to be defending the "goth" because the other person involved was "chav".

Another person is dead due to mindless stereotyping.

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oh for fucks sake

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Stereotypes work and destroy in both ways

This is the Sophie Lancaster story in reverse... Its just as bad, just as insane and just as horrible for all involved.

Maybe this will make people see that labels and stereotypes never lead to anything good. A lot of people on this site who claim to be open-minded are eager to slate "chavs" and say they're all scum/they're all knife-wielding vermin... But it doesnt matter how people dress, what music they listen to, what lifestyle they follow, its their actions and treatment of others that count.

RIP Jed Sheridan - another victim of prejudice. Im not saying his killers weren't victims too - but they shouldnt have killed him. Can we not move forward as a society?!

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Chavs in the news

I read a comment earlier saying chavs aren't shown in newspapers but goths/metals/emos are whenever they attack someone. Its because chavs are Always attacking people and are always in the news because they've killed/shot/stabbed someone again. Goth/emo/metal attacks are rare and that's why they make such a big deal out of it.
On another issue, I think this topic interests a wide range of people and is why its been published.
It was clearly manslaughter, not murder, but had I been in his position I wouldn't have kicked him in the face; if I was really threatened by him I'd have either left the scene or if he really was going to attack me I'd incapacitate him and leave (ie: a kick to the nuts or taking his legs out).
But different people have different views.

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How was it obviously a case of manslaughter? He was hit with a glass bottle. Then kicked in the face while on the ground. That's not an accident.

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Murder would warrant that they went out with the intent of killing the person. If the guy was still breathing when they left and still had the capacity to refuse treatment, they surely hadn't intended to kill him. If they had he would have had glass bottle stab wounds in him and they'd not have left him breathing.

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Nope. If he'd still been breathing, it would be attempted murder. Murder doesn't always require premeditation.

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Well as I said earlier, different people have different views but that he was able to refuse treatment suggests being able to talk/move about etc... I still go with my earlier opinion.
Being drunk aswell showed they wasn't thinking straight anyhow.

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its not about different people having different opinions, its the law.
it doesnt really matter if you think theyll survive what youve just done to them, if they die, you murdered them, wether or not you were standing there when they died.
how many people do you know that think straight when they murder somebody anyway? if they were thinking straight, then it would have been premeditated, cuz if you can destroy a life, and everybody elses lives who are conected with that person for no other reason than you wanted to, then your one fucked up person if you ask me.
he wasnt thinking straight. big deal. he killed somebody.
nobody can justify that.
doesnt matter if the person who did it wasnt normally violent, or they were acting in self defence, if you kill somebody and then (alledgedly) go brag about it the next day when youve probably sobered up, you obviously didnt care about what you did in the first place.
maybe he didnt intend to kill him, but the fact that he could even think that battering somebody senseless is something to be proud about is not a good reflection of his character.

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Sophie

Dont even get me started on Sophie Lancaster... because of her emo is now seen as a "suicide cult" and Russia is looking to ban emo and goth music (which is more likely a triggered excuse for something they have been planning for a long time).
I was so close to going to the protest in London and I wish I had now.

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Sophie

Bwuh? Sophie Lancaster isn't even vaguely associated with emo. Are you thinking of Hannah Bond?

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Sophie

Hannah Bond, I'm sincerely sorry.

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Im a goth and i also have a strong disliking for chavs, but i really wouldnt kick one to death! this war between goths and chavs has gone on for too long now and im quite sick of it, as much as i hate chavs i don't pick fights with them, i treat them how they treat me! if they shout retarded comments at me i WILL shout back, but i don't wanna fight with them im utterly sick of this!!

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meh

drunken fucks attack goths, drunken fucks attack chavs
fucking drunks, all a bunch of cunts

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He is a murderer

he murdered somebody, kinda makes you a murderer folks. Just because he listens to Slipknot doesn't make it acceptable

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He is a murderer

he murdered somebody, kinda makes you a murderer folks. Just because he listens to Slipknot doesn't make it acceptable

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Grr

Just because he was a 'Goth' doesn't mean it doesn't matter, the victim may have been dressed like a chav but that doesn't mean he was planning on attacking the 'goths'. Stereotyping is wrong in ALL aspects. I have loads of chav friends, and I have loads of Goth friends, it doesn't mean they hate eachother, they just see things differently and actually, they do get along.

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When to stop

Jed walked away didnt he

they didnt leave himthere bleeding to death did they

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"good
serves that CHAV right

Posted by ? | August 2, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply to this"

spare a thought for the guys family and friends!? never thought this guy was an actual human being did you? idiot. after that stupid comment, i hope a member of your family dies so you can experience first hand how devastating it really is.

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Social Wars? or just drunk antics

Ok we all know what the score is, Goths/rockers/emo's etc and Chav's have a big problem with eachother there is no doubt about that but as many people have already said its nothing to do with what group you 'belong' to or the music you listen to (Screw you Russia) its all about the person you are

Alot of you also say this is self-defence, well that may be but who continuously kicks someone in the face to defend themselves, nothing stops knocking them down then running.

another point is that the so called 'chav' didnt agree to medical help at the scene which could have saved his life. This could have been a great factor in this case as brutalityplayed a big part in this, being kicked several times in the face, thats kicking when there down and thats just immoral.

so my final word is that although this MAY have been self defence, everyong knows when to stop. Its just up to them to know when defending yourself has gone too far.

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No Violence

As much as we all probably think 'these chavs should get a taste of their own medicine', this is just stooping down to their own pathetic level.
This sounded like self defence as chavs always ussually start a fight, but to kill anyone is just as mindless as any of those dickhead chavs.
It dosen't matter whether someone is emo/goth/chav/metalhead etc., a life should never be taken. Otherwise we're no better than them.


ps: i bet the papers are all over this now saying the emo/goth 'cult' are evil twisted murderers. lol, i can't wait to hear responses to that on here.
BRING IT ON!

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you really think thats right to kill someone because of there label

Darren and Terry didnt kill him because oh his label

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YAS - KILL THE CHAVS ^^

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Newsflash love
he's in jail

and unless you were there you cant say tis murder or not

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WTF!

WTF are loads of ppl sayin its the chavs fault and tht it was prob self defence

when an emo is killed by a chav its the chavs fault but when a chav is killed by an emo it still the chavs fault

come on! he murdered sum1 and should go 2 jail

i dont particular lik chavs but this is stereotypin gone 2 far not all chavs start fight and no 1 her knos it was self the defence

its goin 2 be his automatic defence that he was actin in self defence how else could he try 2 justifie himself

unless any1 here knos Jed sheridan they cant say he starts fight 4 no reason

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WTF!

i did know jed sheridan, and i can truthfully say that he was not a fighter, he was always the 1 to try and calm dwn a situ n keep the peace. he always kept to himself n tried 2 stay out of trbl.

And to vickie and katie jones, i wasnt there that night and neither were you so it is wrong for both of us 2 judge wht happened tht night, ur obvs gunna stick up 4 ur friend and me 2 do the same for mine. and i honestky do fink it is a crying shame tht two lives ave been taken in a result and a 3rd ruined... also the pain n suffering tht the friends n families of each parties have had 2 go through this including urselves and myself.

and i wish people wud stop making asumptions and blaming it on supid things.... no one except the people involved truely knw wht happened tht night, and why it started and why it had 2 end the way it did. and all this sterotyping is driving me mad

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this shit is getting fucking ridiculous. that 'emo' kid's suicide, that 'goth' girls death and now this, just because somebody wants a different style?

what is the big fucking deal with people's looks? people need to get the fuck over what people look like and grow the fuck up.

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^_^

Too be honest, when I first read the article I thought that it was a bit overexaggerated. It was a brutal attack, but I know the medias capabilities and they ALWAYS make things sound worse than they actually are. They make sympathy for the person who got hurt and they make the person doing the hurting sound like a really evil guy. I really think that this was a paranoid attack gone to far. They may have thought it was self-defence but it was probably feeding their paranoid thoughts and stereotypes of what they thought this 'Chav' was going to do.

Thus the moral of the story is, drinking and attacking is not a good mix, things go way to far. I am very non-alcohol, its ok in small quantities but it seems that most people let their thirst for the stuff make them violent.

I don't know the attacker or the victim and I wasn't their so I can only imagine whats happened, but as a victim of attacks and have a boyfriend who has several stab wounds on his back from being attacked in a dark allyway by a 'Chav' I just think that this feud has gotten out of hand. These things must stop before we have a civil war on our hands. It could very well happen, theres enough hatred between the two groups to create one!!!

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THIS HAS NUTHIN TO DO WITH ROCK!!!

as i said earlier, this is not to do with rock. I am not trying to say that murder is not important, and that this story is not important, but this is kerrang, not the independent forum. Also, people should learn not to judge people if you do not know the full story. and this is coming from an emo kid!

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finally

finally a chav killed by a goth, personaly im sick fo the no nonsence rubbish chavs give me all the time. ah well does this country a favor one less person to be on the dole.

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Okay, so somone got killed by a goth
whats the big deal?
someone got murdered, and just because a goth killed a chav, perople dont think its important
i hate chavs, however, i dont feel that jsut because people have different interests they should murder each other.
there was probably something the chav did to provoke the goth, but still, it doesnt make it right

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Wow... we are finally taking a stand against the chavs! I can't say it was a very good way of doing it though, beating up a guy who did nothing to them first.

And the guy who died refused medical attention, AFTER he was kicked in the head?? That is slightly worrying, if you get kicked in the head you should get checked out anyway!

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do you know what a kick in the face can do to your mind? it really fucks you up, you dont think straight and you end up, because your not actually able to think properly, believing that your ok when you not.
tbh his mates should have forced him to go to hospital and get checked out. if i was in that situation thats what id want. for the people i trust to make the right decision despite what i say.
even if its a breach or personal liberty or whatever the fuck people call it.
if youve been battered, i dont think you should have any say in what happens to you really, because your probably not so good at the coherency thing so how can you know whats best?

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i didn't know what a "chav" was, but i've looked upon the term on the inet, we've got those types of kids, here in portugal.. they really are Problem starters... and they only start problems if they are like 20 vs 5 or 10... when alone, they're the tiniest piece of shit upon earth... though that a person got killed, that's shit... but this chav pussies, should be all incarcerated. peace out

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wtf

what the fuck does this have to do with music?

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Some people need to realise that the main reason were against chavs in general is because of there threatening and violent behaviour. This is just an example of goths showing the same kindof behaviour so why the fuck was it 'probably the chavs fault'. And how the fuck can you say repeatedly kicking someone in the face is self defence. So basically the fact it was a 'goth' doing it has nothing to do with it everyone should be treated the same.

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you see

you see this is what happens when goths get picked on itll be an emo attack next.

STILL he shouldn't have be killed im not perticually fond of chavs well the ones iv encountered, but what style or lable a person wheres should not determin a persons personality people look at chavs and think 'oh they must have an asbo or must be a thug' when really thats not true, the same with emos people look at people with a side fringe and skinny jean and think ' oh theyre depressed and cus they are an emo thay must slit their wrists ect' NO its stupid why cant emos, chavs , goths, rave people, indie ect all be friends although to my knowledge rave and indie people dont seem to have a problem with other people BUT STILL i stick to my point of we should all be friends, there i said it!!

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Those guys

wern't dangerous guys at all.
there were/are fucking amazing people and as you all say
it was self defence
Jed Sheridan was just as dangerous if not more dangerous than Tezza(Sewell) and Darren (Abrahams) could ever been.
please dont believe what is in the paper, saying that theyre dangerous because as i said there not.

Thankyou for your support on the whole Chav vs. Goth thing. :)

take care all
xx

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hmmm

like none of you were there, so what do you know?
how do you know whether it was self defence or a random attack?
you're going on about prejudice and look at how easily some of you are picking sides!
whatever the case is, emo, goth, or chav...lives are being lost or destroyed because some people are too fucking shallow.
i don't mean to upset anyone that knew either one of them but most of you are being so gad damn hippocritical!

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hmmm

there was more to the story but because it wasnt 'directly' related with the 'brutal killing' they decided not to take it into the case.

Jed had a past with Darren and Tezza
and he was not killled because he was a goth.

hypocritical, no-ones being hypocritical
you either have the wrong meaning or mean a different word.

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wtf?

wtf is all this fighting about now?! first that gawjus girl goth was killed trying to protect her b/f and now this?! what the hell is going though peoples heads?! MAN! GET HELP! if u dont like someone fine! but theres no need for attacks! just walk away!!!

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chavs

I heard chavs shit in microwaves....

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chavs

tbh i never considered the prospect of self defence, but still, if it wasn't that guy is tarnishing the reputations of goths, grunges, emos, rockers etc for being a generally peaceful clique, i hate chavs as much as the next guy but we can't sink to the level of the acne scabs walking the streets clutching their white lightning, people just gotta remember MAKE FAIRY CAKES NOT WAR
\m/

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TBH

that goth should have got a medal

you know what i call this?

A good fucking start

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Tbh..

Chavs are being beaten up all the time, mostly by other chavs, this isn't any different. We all get prejudiced, we can't help it. We're all human, but it's only our dress sense and our music that separate us. And we get prejudiced for what we like? I don't necessarily BLAME the 'goth' for kicking the 'chav' to death, because chavs are known for beating the shit out of people for no reason, so it's just self-defence if you think about it...

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The evil that is alcohol, is all I can say.

I'm not to fond of chavs myself but as nasty as they act some-times, they are still human and they don't really deserve to die, just stuck in prison for a bit of a lesson.

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violence is never the way, even if provoked. Hopes he enjoys prison, nobdy deserves to be murdered no matter who they are R.I.P.

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chavs deserve to have the shit kicked out of them, but not murdered. i can't stand chavs, i hate them so much. but it should be life for a life, the justice system is so fucked now i won't be surprised if he's out in a few years.

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HAHA!

ah well, its just another chav!
there's too many freakin chavs in the world!

HAHA! MOTHER FUCKING CHAVS GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HIM!
teehee

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thank fuck about time someone stood up for themselves and for the chav well its us against them and no one else no court judge wanker il understand cause they arnt us

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This planet is so doomed

*Screaming till my heart stops*
WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE WORLD?!?!?!
People who are different can't win!
The Chav was looking for trouble, he probably started on him, although he most likely deserved it.
How many murders have their been on emos & goths becuase of chavs and yobbos . I mean, me and my emo friends were walking though a shopping center (mainly full of emo/skate shops anyway) and these chavs started shouting emo and loads of really out of order stuff, but oh no we cant even say a word to them without getting arrested or something!!!!!!!!
*still screaming in my head*
>:(

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INNIT

Wot want a new pair of nike's innit.. well here you go, IN YOUR FACE!

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INNIT

you wouldnt know
you wernt there
and you havnt seen or heard first hand what happend love.

stop saying that he is a murderer
it even says in the articles there was no intention to kill
murderers intend to kill idiot.

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INNIT

alright maybe he didnt intend to kill him, and maybe you do need intent to really be a murderer.
but the guy died right? with or without intent, your friend killed him.
so does that description sit better with you?
hes not a murderer, hes just a killer.
that make it all seem better now does it?

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The fact that he is a 'goth' is no justification for killing another person. You automatically jump to saying that is was self defence, why, just because 'chavs' stereotypically start more fights?

Rocker or not, this man murdered another human being and that is wrong. The victim had a life, a family, and a future that was taken away from him and his attacker shouldn't be let off gently just because he listens to good music.

Say a man or a woman who listened to rock music and dressed in black beat a member of your family or your best friend or your girlfriend/boyfriend to death. Would you still be saying 'Oh, no matter, it was probably self defence ...' ?

More than likely not.

R.I.P.

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too fucking right.
somebody finally making sense.
anybody whos trying to justify murder by using the words self defence is, in all fairness, a fucknut if you ask me
(fucknut, a wonderfully descriptive word, i suggest you all start using it).
i understand how if you really are just trying to survive you could do something that could maim or kill the other person, but when theyre on the floor and half concious? well, in that situation you have to take responsibility for you actions. some might say he was just making sure he wasnt getting back up to go for them again, but couldnt he have just sat on his chest, pinned him to the floor and called the cops?
really, it wouldnt have went the way it did if the people in control of the situation didnt want it to.

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I'm really sad to hear about this. It's disgraceful that someone should feel it's appropriate to go as far as murder because of a hate for every member of a certain stereotype, and show apparently no remorse. Having said that, I'm constantly victimised by chavs and it really wears me down. There's so much closed-mindedness, arrogance and streotyping among young people today, aswell as older people (with regards to younger people). It's really provoking when adults assume I'm a trouble maker, and there have been many times where I've had to employ my extended vocabulary and the fact that I am an orchestral oboe player (don't be fooled, I do have friends, and I also play guitar). At the end of the day, I tihnk it's vital EVERYONE realises that not all young people are as bad as the press reflects. For example, when was the last time you saw news of a teenager's story of success in any shape or form on the telly? >:( Anyway, back to the point, I've had urges to resort to violence when confronted by chavs, but I've restrained myself, and I think it's important that people like 'us' can feel it's okay to let them have their chips, and let them all get on with their lives and realise at a later date that they've made a mistake and should stop hating on us :) Meanwhile, let's show them that they won't get a rise out of us, and hopefully they'll get bored.

The point is, kids need to stop getting wasted and find out how to have fun without getting drunk ALL THE TIME. Theres nothing wrong with it once in a while, but I've got very little sympathy for the offender of this crime. In fact, I've got NONE AT ALL. I reckon he's a complete nob, but I am very sorry to the family of Terry that he's been sentenced to life, and I hope he realises the error of his ways, which I'm sure he will. Given the chance, I'd offer my condolances to Jed's friends and family.

(By the way, there are lots of nice chavs. They just turn into dicks when they're in big groups.)

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sophie was killed because of her 'label'

Jed wasnt
i dont get why you all assume that?

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because if people believe there was a reason for it they can justify it, and because most of the people here are 'rockers' who have had bad experiences with 'chavs' they think that if it was a 'chav' who died then its ok.
remove the labels and what do you have? normal people who were out having fun who got into a bad situation.
for some reason, society has the opinion that 'chavs' are some sort of lower life form, when theyre just people like you and me who are different.
evidently, people in this forum like to believe they have some high and mighty status.
notice how kerrang used inverted commas in the title. becuase thats the way its being reported. as goth on chav violence. if the title was '2 guys battered somebody else' it would hardly be interesting to the rockers here would it? people are people its that simple, but the need for stereotyping and labeling ruins peoples perception of that fact.
everybody should be equal wether theyre 'chavs' or 'goths' or 'emo'
and to quote RHCP - the power of equality, is not yet what it ought to be.

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well said....

my husbands what ppl consider chav.... so are his friends....i'm seen to be goth! we get on well enough to be married and have kids!

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Damn.

..........the tables have turned. First Sophie Lancaster, now this.

Jeezus Fuck, Ya just cant win.

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Damn.

he didnt die because he was a chav.

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sigh.

What a prick is all I can say. I bet he was so black metal he ate christians for breakfast, it's sickening to think this happens on a daily basis in this country. Everyone who has said 'fukin chavs deserve it 4 calin us emos' is a prick, you are called an emo twat for a reason, you are a twat, you dress like a twat and you act like a twat. Grow the fuck up you pubeless wonders and actually start thinking for once in your miserable lives.

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sigh.

he didnt die because of his label you idiot.

you wouldnt know whether it was self defence or not now would you.
you wernt there

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Fucking ignorance.

The comments on thisarticle are pathetic.

All I hear is "waaah chavs are always starting, this stuff always happens to goffs blah blah".

A human life is a human life, regardless of what label one stands under.

And half of you twelve year old hot topic shopping mommy's make-up wearing children should not be excusing this act of violence.

And to all you idiots claiming kicking a guy repeatedly in the head is self defence, stop playing your video games and get out there and see the real world.

Such violence is disgusting.

And such excuses for violence is just as bad.

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Fucking ignorance.

Amen

Show me anyone who thinks repeatedly kicking someone in the head is self defence and i'll show you a fucking moron.

The human skull doesn't offer much protection to the brain that lies only milimeters beneath it, its pretty much common sense that kicking something that delicate is a BAD FUCKING IDEA. You wouldn't believe how little it can take to cause some serious damage, heck if you get the right areas you barely need to render your victim unconcious to do it.

Also, regarding the victim being "well enough" (and i use the term very loosely) to refuse medical help, it can take time for the results of head trauma (haemorrhage, brain swelling, blood clot...) to manifest themselves. I have heard stories of people thinking they were okay, making it back home to bed and simply never waking up in the morning. Add to that the fact that if the victim was drinking (I don't know either way) he may have further underestimated his injuries, as alcohol is a well known painkiller.

In short there is NO fucking excuse for this

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Fucking ignorance.

it wasnt the kciking to the head that killed him lovey

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Fucking ignorance.

He was kicked in the face and then deid of, and i quote "head injuries". Now unless the fatal blow was delivered by the bottle, it makes sense that the kicking lead to the ultimately fatal head injuries, unless of course he was punched in the head at some point.

But what does if matter whether it was the kicking or the bottle or the beating. The point is Terry beat someone so hard that they died, and i'm reading comments trying to pass kicking someone in the face off as self defence! (Even if i take your word for it and the kicks weren't fatal, my point is they so easily could have been, and Terry should have been well aware of this) I find that inexcusable, as i hope any sane person should.

BTW unless you are intimatly involved with the case and have therefore heard the coroners findings (i'm not saying you haven't!), how do you know the exact cause of death?

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Fucking ignorance.

it wasnt the kciking to the head that killed him lovey

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Fucking ignorance.

He didnt die because of his label.

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This really is no better than Sophie Lancaster's death. I know I may not be hugely keen on chavs but I just avoid them as much as I can otherwise things like this and Sopie's death happen :/

And I must agree with the person above me: "A human life is a human life, regardless of what label one stands under." As I said I'm not hugely fond of Neds/Chavs but I would never go to such extremes as to end another's life.

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he didnt die because he was a chav
will everyone stop saying that

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GET A GRIP PEOPLE!

NO matter what happens, murder is still murder!
Just because he was a chav doesn't mean he deserved to die, because of Terry Sewell a young man has lost his life and there is no excuse for taking life.

If a Terry had been a chav and Jed had been a goth then the punishment would have been exactly the same, do you seriously think courts care about all these pathetic labels?

People who are saying he deserved to die need to appreciate human life. A family and many friends are now mourning the loss of a loved one.

This crime is disgusting, and shouldn't have happened and until people can be mature enough to appreciate that other people have the right to wear what they want and be who they want to be it will continue to happen.

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labels? dont even get me started...

Why the hell does it MATTER what sort of music the killer or victim listened to?!!!!! Someone killed, someone died; sadly it happens every day and more often than not its nothing to do with labels...

That said, this was more than likely a fight that got out of hand - i cant honestly believe it was about labels.

People - get a fucking grip - there are now families grieving, and peoples lives ruined!

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labels? dont even get me started...

There was history there love
its not an assumption that they were going to start

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at the end of the day goths are just as bad, you can't start on someone because you "think" they will start on you, an innocent life was took it doesn't matter what you are it still wrong!

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ffs

'chavs' & 'goths' are just as bad as each other , pathetic , you get ppl on here complaining abouts chavs and now you have nothing to complain about coz your just as fuckin bad and this is evidence , obviously this isnt aimed at all goths or whatever label but goths cant complain anymore

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ffs

how can you judge them when you dont know them.

They had no intention to kill
it was an even sided fight
both sides had been drinking.
and plus that wasnt the only fight Jed had got in that night.

the people who are siding with Tezza (Terry) yes thats his name, not killer, arn't retarded
they just know the real story or the story previous to what the bullshit news are saying,

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ffs

even sided doesnt mean it was fair.
3 five year olds get into a fight with 3 elephants. even sided but not fair. and yes i know its a stupid fucking metaphor but its true nonetheless isnt it?
so what if it wasnt his first fight that night either? doesnt mean anything. fact is it was his last fight EVER.
why are you so up in arms about their intent that night? does it really matter wether or not they wanted to kill him?
somebody died, in a (suposedly) fair fight and your banging on about intent? is his reputation really that important to you? is it really so important that you make people believe he didnt intend to kill sombody, that you overlook the fact that he DID kill somebody?
having a history with somebody does not justify violence towards them. it certainly doesnt justify (alledgedly) bragging to your mates about kicking the head of another human being repeatedly.
maybe the news being reported is bullshit. maybe there were reasons that nobody but the people involved's friends know about. does it matter?
the big picture here is; somebody was killed.
another person killed themselves because of it, and 3 entire sets of family and friends lost people they love because of it.
reputation and intient mean absolutely fucking nothing in those situations.
you keep telling people to not go on about labels and going on about how he didnt intend to kill that night.
look a the end result, not the things that precipitated it and dont matter in the slightest anymore.

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ffs ditto

Anyone who sides with the killers is fucking retarded. "Chavs" are know to be violent but it's not fair to tar them all with the same brush. This random act of violence throws the "discrimination" part of the Sophie Lancaster case out the window, and the narrow-minded bastards who killed this guy are as bad as Sophie's killers.

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Well done I say. We need more like these two to clean up the scum from the streets. They took a potential killer off our streets. My hat comes off to these men.

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no intention to kill
it was a fight
therefore it was man slaughter
two lives were lost
the was history between Jed and Terry and Darren

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ok everyone is saying self defense i don't know i wasn't their

but according the the "goths" they started because of fear of being attacked not because they were that sounds pre-emptive to me

and 2bh i hate to admit it but i'm against the goths on this occasion i love my metal but chav or not no one deserves death and if you cannot control yourself due to drink then don't drink i think they deserve to be locked up it's still a crime

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Goth vigilantes.
What next? Emo suicide bombers?

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Why Is The Media..

Why is the media hyping up all the violence chav-on-chav, all these stabbings in london, all these shootings, but why is it, the day to day violence, chav on goth/emo/punk. Then you are all so fucking suprised when one 'goth' looses it and kicks a chav to death. How many of these emo suicides The Daily (TWATTING) Mail, do you think had a root with chavs? I think if you looked deep enough, quite a few, there are so many people like me, who listens to rock music, who could be classed as goth/emo, and i get beaten and picked on by chavs, so dont be so fucking suprised when you a goth loses it and kicks the living shit out of a chav, rest in hell you dirty fuck.

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Chav, Goth, Emo, whatever
People should remember the things that we all have in common and fight against the things that oppress us all.
End of the day, people is people.
Sad news.

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Im not pickin sides but technicaly its the chavs who started this emo/goth war, they dont like the way we dress or the music we listen to... so they think us as freaks.

Becca <3

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Right i dont wish to take sides especially because i knew neither of these people personally HOWEVER every day the chav culture affects our society in a negative way, theres an increase in gun crime and knife crime surprise surprise its the dickheads wearing tracksuits that do it, they form street gangs to make shitty music about each other in there bedrooms and wait for a reply so they can use it as a reason to engage in violence, they vandalise my neighborhood and smash all the cars in the street up, they spend there lives smoking weed and trying to impress people with their machetes and guns and illegal dogs, they have no aspirations and no will to benefit this country in any way shape or form and they dont care about anybody but themselves probably due to emotional distress which has lowered their confidence and left them with an easily influenced pathetic mind pattern. on top of this they frown upon anybody who reads kerrang magazine or listens to any music promoted by kerrang because it promotes the use of musical instruments that they dissaprove of because theyve been easily influenced into believing they'll get more respect from other chavs by listening to shitty homemade bedroom MC's. now i'll give my opinion on the most likely happening of the night, the chav started shouting abuse at the goth for wearing different clothes and not wearing a cotton nike air max tracksuit the chav then swore at the goth and because the goth is sick of the little unemployed drug taking dick head chavs ruining the country he lost his temper and kicked the chav to death, personally i'd love nothing more than to see this happen to every single chav in the country and i hope it hurt.

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I dont really care about chavs they think they own when they dont a stuck up for a goth in town man and the fucking chav came over and started yellin he was gonna knife me then called me a goth for wearing black skinny jeans and converse a mean people these days should be able to wear what the fuck they want without be slagged or fucking abused in the streets chavs always start there shit tho when they have been drinkin wine thinkin they're king kong screw chavs there all pricks this is the first time ave ever hear of a goth beating a chav its always the other way around

fur sure (Y)

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grow the fuck up!

over half of you all should listen to yourselves...... you sound worse than the so called chavs. your making me feel so sick at the state of humanity these days that i'm getting off this site straight away. my husband is what some of you would look at and label a chav and i'm what you'd consider goth. what should i fucking stab him stamp on his head, kill him? for what clothes we wear? are we now enemies coz we both like different things? i'll go shoot him now eh? leave my kids without a good, loving dad? it's times like these that i wonder how i can ever justify bringing two innocents into a world like this. it's pathetic.

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GET A GRIP

oh dear oh dear oh dear....one PERSON died from his injuries, another PERSON killed themselves and another PERSON is paying for their mistake....end of....no labels, no excuses!!!!!

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Unfair

Think about it, all these stupid chav types get away with shit like this all the time. So yeah that dirty fucker deserved everything he got. And normally "goths" are calm, so why on this one occasion is everyone judging us on one dude, and not what we really are, because chavs are like 10x worse

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Unfair

Think about it, all these stupid chav types get away with shit like this all the time. So yeah that dirty fucker deserved everything he got. And normally "goths" are calm, so why on this one occasion is everyone judging us on one dude, and not what we really are, because chavs are like 10x worse

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you are all mindless idiots

the way people dress doesn alternate whether this murder was justified

self defence? yes im sure that kicking someone repeatedly in the head and smashing a bottle over their head is a fair fight and im sure that the boy, who btw has a name is not just "the chav" wouldn't have been able to throw many hits if his skull had just been kicked in you absolute utter disrepectful wankers

it just goes to show how much morality is actually left in this world with people falpping their miuth abotu how they would tahnk someone for killing an a person who's only crime is that he was labeled a chav


well when someone kicks your head in and kills you i'll just start a nice little chat colum about how happy i am that you died because you were a goth, punk, emo, whatever the hell you so desired to be called...

welldone

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chavs feel the need to shout abuse at goths for the way they dress it was on the news that a girl called sophe and her boy friend was attacked for dressing that way people should be alloud to dress the way they want it was proberly self defence any way

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i have lost count the amount of times that me and my mates have been beaten up by chavs or had abuse hurled at us. so i believe it was probably self defence gone too far too.

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Burning Question.

The whole fight between labels should stop.

And most of all, people should stop labelling... it's mostly the LABELS that actually start these fights.

Because of one little word, people are getting brutally beaten up and even murdered.

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Burning Question.

hear hear

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There was no intention to kill him

He didnt die because he was a chav

please get that into all of your heads

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good

serves that CHAV right

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does nobody writing these comments remember the goth who got killed by a chav not so long ago? some of you seem to think its ok for a goth to be violent towards a chav, yet when its the other way around you react differently. i read the letters and e mails sent into k! mag after that killing and there was a lot of sympathy there for the victim and her family, but here i havn't read one comment that is sympathetic towards Sheridan. if i were to judge people by what i've read here, i'd say chavs were probably better people than goths.

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You Lot

Make me sick!
The 'chav' didn't do anything, that 'goth' that killed the 'chav' makes uslookbad. But you lot going "ehhh the chav deserved it' really need to read it properly.

That 'goth' is a basterdto just go: "well who cares, it was a chav!"

Twat.

I dont like 'chavs' but i'm not a 'goth' eather.

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You Lot

how would you know!
you wernt there!

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You Lot

the woal storys there
I feel sorry for the 'chavs' family.
No one deservs to be murderd.

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You Lot

it doesnt matter if they were there or not.
why are you so bothered about people who have (probably) no connection to the people involved stating their opinions?
YOU know what your friends are like. nobody else does.
so dont try and make people change their minds, when all that really matters is YOU know what happened, and YOU can go through your life knowing how innocent your friend was when he killed somebody.
if sombody walks up to you on the street and starts talking sht about it, by all means, stick up for your friend, but here on the internet? just ignore it all. why listen to the people who obviously arent bothered about the fact that they werent there?

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..... .... ... .. .

I'm not on anyside because the 'chav' might have been wrong to start in the first place and the (if the accusations are true) 'goth' who stabbed him was wrong to do than because even ih he did start and it might have not been on perpos but it's stiill not fair to kill someone because you hade a pathetic dissogreement.

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..... .... ... .. .

I'm not on anyside because the 'chav' might have been wrong to start in the first place and the (if the accusations are true) 'goth' who stabbed him was wrong to do than because even ih he did start and it might have not been on perpos but it's stiill not fair to kill someone because you hade a pathetic dissogreement.

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..... .... ... .. .

as i said there was history between them

call it what you want

there was no intention to kill,
he never stabbed him
i really dont know where you got that from.

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Jesus, I understand that most of the people here don't like chavs, but these guys killed him.

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When are we all going to learn to just get along with one another because more kids are going to die. How many more people wil it take to die before we realise! I have been on the recieving end of a good kick in and yes i would love revenge but the best thing to do is walk away!

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I accept the fact that this may have been self defence, however, i am sickened by the fact that this 'goth' thought he had the right to kick an innocent young person to death. It's dispicable.

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Jed was far from innocent.

and i appreichate so is Terry.
it just happens that he picked a fight with two wrong guys
because Darren studdied Martial arts therefore was a pro in self defence.

Terry didnt mean to kill him, serious harm may have been intened.
but i know Terry and he wouldnt go out to kill.

This was all just an unfortunate mistake.

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I sympathise with you having gone through a lot here, but the fact does remain that someone is dead, intention or not. It's a hell of a lot more than an unfortunate mistake.

I've had the shit kicked out of me for being a goth. I've been aboused, chased and followed home by what people would describe as chavs, as have a lot of people that I've known. I also studied martial arts when I was younger. I haven't killed anyone intentionally or otherwise.

There are limits to what is acceptable. I am willing ot believe that there may have been provocation, even that they may not have started it. It has however been proven that Jed was attacked with a bottle and was kicked in the head while on the floor. There is no way that can be justified.

Wheteher these people are chavs, goths, emos or little green men from outer space, there is no justification for killing. Ever.

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the mueder

im not been funny or anythin but like i dont like chavs but like i surport emo's but i wouldnt go as far as killing one there are jus like emo's n goth etc they jus different only because they dress different and wear burbrey that doesnt mean u have to go and kill them you wouldnt like to be discriminated because who you are and how you dress and what music u listen to you want to be treated like a normal human and thats how a 'chav' wants to be treated to they take a mick out of 'emos' 'goth' etc and 'emos' 'goth' take a mick out of chavs

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the mueder

HE DIDNT DIE BECAUSE HE WAS A CHAV STOP FUCKING SAYING THAT!

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im not been funny or anythin but like i dont like chavs but like i surport emo's but i wouldnt go as far as killing one there are jus like emo's n goth etc they jus different only because they dress different and wear burbrey that doesnt mean u have to go and kill them you wouldnt like to be discriminated because who you are and how you dress and what music u listen to you want to be treated like a normal human and thats how a 'chav' wants to be treated to they take a mick out of 'emos' 'goth' etc and 'emos' 'goth' take a mick out of chavs

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im not been funny or anythin but like i dont like chavs but like i surport emo's but i wouldnt go as far as killing one there are jus like emo's n goth etc they jus different only because they dress different and wear burbrey that doesnt mean u have to go and kill them you wouldnt like to be discriminated because who you are and how you dress and what music u listen to you want to be treated like a normal human and thats how a 'chav' wants to be treated to they take a mick out of 'emos' 'goth' etc and 'emos' 'goth' take a mick out of chavs

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im not been funny or anythin but like i dont like chavs but like i surport emo's but i wouldnt go as far as killing one there are jus like emo's n goth etc they jus different only because they dress different and wear burbrey that doesnt mean u have to go and kill them you wouldnt like to be discriminated because who you are and how you dress and what music u listen to you want to be treated like a normal human and thats how a 'chav' wants to be treated to they take a mick out of 'emos' 'goth' etc and 'emos' 'goth' take a mick out of chavs

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the murder

im not been funny or anythin but like i dont like chavs but like i surport emo's but i wouldnt go as far as killing one there are jus like emo's n goth etc they jus different only because they dress different and wear burbrey that doesnt mean u have to go and kill them you wouldnt like to be discriminated because who you are and how you dress and what music u listen to you want to be treated like a normal human and thats how a 'chav' wants to be treated to they take a mick out of 'emos' 'goth' etc and 'emos' 'goth' take a mick out of chavs

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do i have to spam comment the fact that he didnt die because he was a chav

listen to that love!

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murder + respect

guys the dude is dead regardless of what people clased him as doesnt mean you should still call him those disrespectful names. SHOW SOME FUCKING RESPECT AND STOP STEREOTYPING COMPETELY YOU HYPOCRITES

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Terry Sewell

How Many Of You Know Terry? or Knew Darren
It Was A Fight Unfortuntaly 2 People Are Dead Because Of It
I Knew Terry He Had To Learn To Fend For Himself He Didnt Have A Home.
N There Was no Judge When He Was Beaten In To A Coma With A Dlock by 18+ chavs One Night For No Reason.

when You Get Beaten The Shit Out Of For No Reason with A Dlock course your gonna have a strong Dis liking For Soome People.
Both Group Had Been Drinking.
N They Got In fight It Just Endded With The Loss Of Jed Darren N Terry Being Put In Jail.
No one deserves to die. So If Anyone Is Saying they do then thats harsh and un-fair.
and Terry Does not Deserve To Be Called A Murderer he didnt intend on going out and killing any one.
he did not have a weapon he did not try beat him to death.
and the other thing is that murderers get less time then that.
The Law Is needed but it needs a hell of alot of improvements

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charv deserved it
basically for being a charv end of
also the charv also must have provoked him...

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Murder and Stereotyping?

Am i the only person that thinks murders wrong regardless of the way the person dresses, or the person acts. Yes, if it does turn into a fight, dont go so far to murder someone. Its best to try to not fucking get involved in fights.
And to all the twats that say "you pussy, you dont fight" then your just a fucking pillock who ahsnt got anything else to say.
To Conna: You're a sick bastard

Another Interesting point is this: Sophine Lancaster was murdered because of the way she dresses, and the music she listens too, its a fucking similar thing. What the fuck is the point??

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HE DOESNT EVEN LOOK LIKE A GOTH

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thats because that was the 'chav' who was killed.

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Feel for the families not the Killers

CoB HC wrote - "Well done I say. We need more like these two to clean up the scum from the streets. They took a potential killer off our streets. My hat comes off to these men."
You imbecile- He became the killer and he must now spend his life in prison and also live with the guilt of not only what he did but also his part in the circumstances that caused his friends suicide!!!
All this goth,chav emo,metal head stuff is complete bollocks an evil person/killer is that way not because of their label they are like that because that is who they are - no matter what music you like or how you dress there is no excuse for murder/manslaughter/assault - now lets stop defending the killer and channel our thoughts/prayers and sympathy to the two families who have trgically lost their sons needlessly and before their time.

And to Vicky and Kate - whether these guys ( your friends) WERE good people or not on that night THEY became the ones in the wrong as there is NEVER EVER EVER an excuse for hitting someone with a bottle and kicking them in the head!
I agree that a murder charge is harsh (manslaughter should have been the charge) but they should never have beaten a man to death (defence or otherwise) !!!!!!!

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goth kills chav

ok....Sewell took it to far with repeatedly kicking him in the face but WHY THE BLOODY HELL would you refuse treatement at the scene after the repeated kicking and having a bottle smashed over his head!!! it is not common sense!

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goth kills chav

mayb the reason he wasnt finkin straight was cos of the head injuries caused by the kicks and the bottle.... dont fink u'd b finking 2 clearly afta tht either wud u? now hu is lacking the common sense

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goth kills chav

woo! somebody else whos actually got some fucking intelligence!
alcohol + head injuries = dont know what your doing.
how do people not get that fact when its glaringly obvious?

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Murder is murder, it doesn't make a difference whether it's chav or not.

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the few above

the papers say he kicked jed repeatedly he only kicked him 3 times.
n it should have been man slaughter there was no intention of killing him.

and also chav no chav i got chav mates they dont deserve to die
goths emo moshers grungers no one deserves to die

unless your hitler or sadam huan or someone like that then why does any one deserve to die for the way they dress the music they like
they dont.

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after being hit with a bottle and being repeatedly kicked in the head do you think you would be "using your common sense" !!!
He had the sense kicked out of him - the medics should have insisted !!And as for "took it too far"!!!! are you joking - that is the understatement of the year!

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what is a chav??

is a chav someone who dresses in a nike shell suit or a McKenzie hoody and air max trainers and says Innit a lot because i know loads of them but i can tell you without a shadow of a doubt not one of them would ever beat someone to death!!!
Being a Chav is more about THEIR lifestyle choice not what they wear just as being a goth is about the way they choose to live their lives not what they wear and music they listen to.
killers are killers - no matter what they dress like,music they listen to or who their parents are !!
They are wrong not their stereotype!

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to simon

yer it is an understatement but you cant put it down in words...and u are really right that the medics should hav insited...if u can spot the fact you wouldn't be thinking straight. i think the proffesionals should be able to spot it!!!!

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Chavs = shit

fuckin chav cunt probably deserved it.... alll the chavs round here need a good kickin cos they start all kindsa shit on ppl who aint chavs.....

i sorta feel sorry for him cos he musta been pushed to it by chavs in some way

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How Can You?

How Can You Say That About Chavs
Probably Self Defence!

You DOnt Even Fucking Know Him For Gods Sake...My Older Brother Is What People Would Call A Chav But Him And ALL His Friends Are Really Sweet!

And How Do You Know That The 'emo' Wasnt Some Rude, Evil Little Shit Who Has Beaten Up Thousands Of Kids And Has Only Just Got What He Deserved!

And So What If The Boy Was And Emo Or A Chav And Maybe The Chav Did Deserve It But You Arent Realising Is That He Is Now Dead! And His Whole Entire Family Is Devastated, No-one Deserves To Be Murderd, Can You Even Think To Imagine The Pain And Torture He Was Going Through And How Much That Boy Must Of Done To Of 'Kicked' Him To Death! No-one In Their Right Mind Could Do That To Someone And What You Arent Thinking ABout Is How Many Lives Have Been Ruined! That Boy Is Dead And Whether He Deserved It Or Not He Was 19! A Young Teenager Who Hadnt Even Lived Yet! And It Makes Me Sick To Think That There Are People Out There Who Thinks Someone Deserves To Be Tortured In That Way!

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How Can You?

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT THOSE GUYS

you say you cant judge a 'chav' if you dont know them
like your brother

so how can you judge MY FRIENDS saying that he could've been a rude evil little shit.

thats hypocritical.

You didnt know them
dont say that if you cant back it up.

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god sake! shes not being hypocritical!
she said you cant judge people by how they look.
her 'chav' brother, isnt what most people would think of when they think of a chav.
the fact is she said 'could have'.
i know plenty of people who look one way but act another, me included. ive been called a goth and an emo because i like emo music, wear dark clothes most of the time and have piercings and tattoos. but im not. i dont do what emos suposedly do and spend all day moping around cutting myself. im actually a very cheery fellow.
besides nobody thinks their friends are rude evil little shits so your taking some random comment in a completely different way than it was intended. she didnt say your friend WAS a rude evil little shit, shes just saying that appearances are decieving.

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How Can You Say That About Chavs
Probably Self Defence!

You DOnt Even Fucking Know Him For Gods Sake...My Older Brother Is What People Would Call A Chav But Him And ALL His Friends Are Really Sweet!

And How Do You Know That The 'emo' Wasnt Some Rude, Evil Little Shit Who Has Beaten Up Thousands Of Kids And Has Only Just Got What He Deserved!

And So What If The Boy Was And Emo Or A Chav And Maybe The Chav Did Deserve It But You Arent Realising Is That He Is Now Dead! And His Whole Entire Family Is Devastated, No-one Deserves To Be Murderd, Can You Even Think To Imagine The Pain And Torture He Was Going Through And How Much That Boy Must Of Done To Of 'Kicked' Him To Death! No-one In Their Right Mind Could Do That To Someone And What You Arent Thinking ABout Is How Many Lives Have Been Ruined! That Boy Is Dead And Whether He Deserved It Or Not He Was 19! A Young Teenager Who Hadnt Even Lived Yet! And It Makes Me Sick To Think That There Are People Out There Who Thinks Someone Deserves To Be Tortured In That Way!

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How Can You?

of course this is the case, your brother and his friends are unlikely to beat 7 shades of shit out of you at home are they?
mug

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What a waste of life

I find it so sad how different cultures breed violence. Our differences should be respect. Tbh, it doesn't matter what "group" you fit in, if you have a different style etc. then that doesn't give anyone the right to do what that guy did. It was stupid and that "goth" deserved to go to prison. Labels are for soup cans. Behavior like this is ridiculous and sad. This kind of thing makes me angry and upset and this is why I refused to be labeled.

My opinion.

^^

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What a waste of life

You're right. 'Gang Culture' is the root of loads of problems in todays society and the thing is that so many crimes could have been prevented. How many violent acts this year have been unprovoked, and simply because the victim was in a different 'group'?
So many people die because of labelling. I know people who fall into the 'chav' catagory and people who fall into the 'goth/emo/punk/rocker' catagory, and they get along fine most of the time. I have friends who fall into neither and aren't too bothered.
Why does what you wear have to be a problem? If you like wearing black and skulls and stuff like that, why shouldn't you? And if Nike trainers and shiny tracksuits are your thing then why shouldn't you wear them?
Society has gone mad. Teenagers fighting and killing is in the news at least once a week these days, and there's no need for half of it. That's the short and long of it, really, in my opinion...

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good and bad

do any of you rember the goth girl who was kicked to death by a chav gang ? this shows theres good and bad on everyside. I know some really nice 'chavs' and some right pricks , but tbf i also so no some goth pricks and some really nice goths

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the thing wif this argument about chav's VS emo's has been goin on 4 years and will do for years.....but it will never be solved. a good example of against a style of people is Russia saying they willban emo culture....this could have gone any way....they could hav said they are going to ban chav's but it went against emos this time.....all i want to know is that why cant poeple realise that chav or emo is a style you choose it shouldn't brand you with a stereotypical label!!!!!

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chavs target goths n emos coz they r different n the chavs get jelous coz they dont hav a great, unique style, sad but tru, now wer gettin blamed 4 thier crap, emos n goths leave da chavs alone coz they r gud ppl, the chavs jst start on them, they P*SS ME OFF SOOOO MUCH! kill all chavz!

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This Shouldnt Be happenin please stop the fightin every1 likes diffrent things

come on !!!!

Im Friends With Some Goths And Emos And A Couple Of Chavs To, WE All Get along Well,We All Like Diferent Things So F*ckin Wisen Up everyone.


M.C.R ---- Chavs Hate There Fans
Dj Tiesto ----- Goths + Emos Hate Him Because Chavs Like Him

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few points:
1) its murder -the judge said so, therefore it is....like barry george....no longer a murderer, got cleared
2) don't try to justify it, if the other way around peeps will be OMFG!
3) just coz when u left he was still alive, doesnt mean it wasnt murder....he died coz of his injuries, therefore murder and for peeps saying uve got to go out with the intention for it to be murder ur thinking of premeditated murder...
just coz he was ur mate doesnt mean he's in the right....take a look at it and sort urself out and get over it, jeez

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we know what he did was wrong.

but he wasnt a murderer and the unwanted names is what we are trying to clear.

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if you want to stop people calling him a murderer, your gona hafta get him aquited.
hes been sent to jail for murder, so of course everbody says hes a murderer. if you get sent to jail for theft, but just accidently didnt pay for something, your still labeled a thief.

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ok first some of you people, must be a bit crazy, so wat if he was a 'chav' that doesnt mean its ok to just go around killing people because of what they look like

and secondly of course its murder, even if it was self defence, it was over the top so would still be murder, and also that there was no intention to kill, that doesnt matter you dont need to intend that for you to be done with murder! you should really check the facts before making stupid comments!

Posted by karl | August 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply to this
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errm why has every forgotten?

errrrm he didnt want medical attention

fuck him

chavs aint got anything better to do than start

they should all just die

i know it sounds stupid

but tbh would anybody miss chavs?

i mean come on.........

ofc if we were all mates there wouldn't be this shit

but tbh chavs are the ones who star

emos and goths dont

dont give me BS that chavs are nice

cause ur chavs mates would beat ur ass and knife u if u didnt know them tbh

were all capple able of doing this but

chavs do it for fun tbh and for they way ppl look

emos and goths just try to get along

seriously

vote shoot on sight at chavs =]

fine then bloody beatings T_T

i know u can say were justa s bad as them

but they started it by being dicks for no reason

fuck them and any defender of chavs

lol ever eard of good genoside lol u have now

lol i think this proves that most we could easly kill chavs if we wanted to but we dont!!!

the judge is rigth saying its murder an all

but the chav refused medical attention

and went home lol

fuck him lol one less to kick off :D

haha 3 chavs drive off a cliff ina accident at night

policemen says "what a waste could have fit at least 2 more in the car :D"

why dont they burn them selfs when they steal a car :D

see how logn u can go befor eu die there u go :D

next time hold onto the firework all the way but next to ur face :D

lol chavs are the problem with this contry

they should just not start

or cause shit

Posted by lewis | August 3, 2008 12:43 AM | Reply to this
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