Less than Jake Vs. Fall Out Boy

Punk rock heroes Less Than Jake have hit out at the current state of the music industry, in particular the 'Pete Wentz effect'.

Drummer Vinnie Fiorello, who once co-owned record label de jour, Fueled By Ramen, has issued a stark warning to new bands who aspire to be associated with media mogul Wentz.

''Every band that I know, I have been saying the same thing to on repeat - don't sign to a label," says Fiorello. "I had that talk with Punchline and thankfully they are releasing their new record via their own label. Listen to me: you don't need to give 30% to a group of people who don't give a fuck about the passion you have for music.

"You don't need Pete [Wentz] hyping you," he continues. "You don't need a marketing team who doesn't like your music to start with, you don't need to feel empowered by a logo that has a history of stealing your money and holding you hostage. its a brand new game out there kids, fuck the old model. Don't believe the hype.''



Tags: Fall Out Boy, Less Than Jake
Posted by Dan at 01:22PM | July 10, 2008
fall out boy suck

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Posted by krissy | July 10, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply to this
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I like both bands to be fair
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I'm a fan of both bands, Fall Out Boy more than Less Than Jake, but I completely agree with Vinnie. he owned Fueled by Ramen. He knows what hes talking about far more than Pete. Pete is style over substance...have you heard some of it's latest bands?! My God, I can count the number of decent bands on one hand - and Fall Out Boy are about to be dropped off the 'good FBR' list. Bands like You Me At Six have it right, starting their own label to get their own music out...they can do what they want, and they don't have to play by some wanker's rules just cos he'll say they're "like the best damn thing" and wear their t-shirt at New York Fashion Week without actually listening to their music.

God, I hate Pete Wentz. We don't need to ask Kerrang who's side they're on.
Posted by Chloe | July 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply to this
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lmao

chole will you marry me?
Posted by shan=))++abbie daly | July 10, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply to this
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lmao

Wow...that's the third time ive been proposed to today. I think my two husbands would be a little put off, so I'll have to say no...plus the fact that I suspect you're a girl is kinda swaying me. Thanks for the offer, though...
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Uh oh. Even Less than Jake are pissed off with Dan now.
Whoever they are.
Posted by Gorgar | July 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply to this
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Well done Vinnie, finally someone who is hitting out at that money grabbing bastard
Posted by mcrkidx6x6x6 | July 10, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply to this
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AGREED!!!

There are people out there who start listening to bands just because they're associated with Wentz or with FBR. If you dont believe me, check out on Myspace or Bebo the amount of people who like FOB, Panic and GYM CLASS HEROES... GCH are not "rock", they're not "alternative" and they shouldnt be put in the same genre as bands cuz they're on the same label!!!

I actually do like FOB, especially their really old stuff, but im really starting to hate Wentz!!
Posted by Lauren ({{ ,') | July 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply to this
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right on vinnie!

the man knows his shit!

and its right, as much as a like take this to your grave, pete is more about the publicity and being seen in the right places now at parties and what not

the new less than jake albums is awesome

looking forward to seeing them at leeds in august and birningham in november
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really?

it was pretty sweet when you spent all of fobs marketing money on less than jake samplers.

pretty diy dude.

ps how big was your payout when john from fbr bought the label back from you (a couple million bux) and how much was from bands you signed like punchline and how much was from bands pete signed like panic. just make an educated guess.
Posted by someone who knows well | July 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply to this
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Pete Wentz is a cunt and always will be i would love to fight him in RL

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how is this LTJ vs FOB?!

its more liike vinnie vs major labels

stop trying to stir shit up kerrang!
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im surprised andymark hasn't infested this yet. I love fob, but post about the other three for a change please! patrick deserves it more than anyone there in fob
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Thank you Less Than Jake.
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well, before pete wentz started trying to take the music world in his own hands. i did like fall out boy. but now i've kinda gone off them. just because of that dick head pete effin wentz. or his real name witch is peter kingston wentz III. well thats a mouth full. but i'm not complaning about his name. i'm complaning about him. he's married to ashlee, he's got a baby on the way. his dogs. the band, a clothing line, a record label...and a whole lot more. and yet he's still wanting more. a effin tv show for fuck sake pete give it a rest. do you allways need your name all over the music scene? and k! do s allways need to be typing up everything that happenes to pete and co. and for less than jake...go you guys you rock and i love yous so much. keep up the good work guys.
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oh yeah vinnie ownes the record lable before pete fuckin wentz came along
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CRIPLE FIGHT!!!
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pete wentz is sooo gay,its about time some one put there foot in about pete fucking wentz the attention seeker!!
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pete wentz is sooo gay,its about time some one put there foot in about pete fucking wentz the attention seeker!!
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pete wentz is sooo gay,its about time some one put there foot in about pete fucking wentz the attention seeker!!
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ok

Actually Pete is not gay... He is going out with Ashley simpson so i highly doubt he is gay....
Oh wait, Your using gay as a negative, Homophobe.
There is a million to one words out there for using something as a negative rather than gay. Go buy a dictionary and look it up. Makes me made when people feel it's okay to use gay to describe something they don't like.
On the other hand, Pete is a person i strongly dislike and i would love to have the honors of pissing in his eyes.
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ok

Your argument is gay.
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ok

your quite obviously trying to be funny.
It was a bad attempt but well done for trying.
Posted by okk | July 14, 2008 3:00 AM | Reply to this
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I believe weds 13 was actually reffering to Pete as a homosexual as he is an archetype of homosexuality. He is very camp, has womanly hair and is a member of fall out boy. All homosexual traits. As for his relationship with Ashlee Simpson, she is only with him because he is famous and he is only with her in a pathetic attempt to authenticate his claim of hetrasexuality

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Posted by mary | July 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply to this
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Wentz sucks

Wentz is just in it for the money and fame anyway.
All the bands he sign get big-more money for him, and thats ALL he gives a shit about.
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thought id get in before kerrang

fall out boy october uk tour

birmingham NEC
glasgow SECC
London Wembley Arena

:-)
Posted by paul | July 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply to this
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Bring the pitchforks and flaming torches!
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I'll call the KKK.
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finally!

sorry lil typo there...but at least the fangirl/boy problem would be solved
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tamara ... I agree with everything you've just said, I'm totally on your side.

Pete Wentz is a stupid bastard who hasnt one ounce of talent! He's just an attention seeker.

I used to like fall out boy but i'm kinda going off them to, because of him.
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lol im same as you... used to like them, but now that vain, money hungry cunt pete wentz has completely driven me away from even liking the band

they should rename it
FALL OUT BOY / PETE WENTZ CHARITY FUND
Posted by lol | July 12, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply to this
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What dicks..
Fall Out Boy and Pete Wentz both kick ass so stfu yeahhh xD
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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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I hate these rock bands whats wrong with reading hmmm? I think you should all go home and get writing PLAYS god damn you. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF BEING ENGLISH!!!

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your a crack ed right???
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Vinnie

Is it me or is he being just a little bit of a hypocrite though. Because he owned the label at one point if I recall. Yes Pete can be an idiot but can't everyone? Someone needs to get off their high horse.
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Fall out boy = great band
Less than Jake = meh [!!]
x
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Research

Why doesn't everyone calling Vinnie a hypocrite do some research first?!

He sold the label he created, why shouldn't he sell it he put his own money, efoort and years of his life into it. He left the label because he didn't like the direction it was headed, and I think we can all see why now we can see the end product.
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Wentz...

*sigh* I really hate when this happens.

Okay Vinnie, it's wonderful you're getting your own words out. But still. "'You don't need to give 30% to a group of people who don't give a fuck about the passion you have for music.'"? It may just be me, but all the bands that have signed to the DecayDance label seem pretty good friends with Pete.

I'm sure Pete "gives a fuck" about the bands he signs. Though I have to agree with Pete being an attention whore. I mean, his own label, clothing line, TV show, getting married to a simpson...don't you think it's a little too much, Pete?
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finally!

Someone talks sense about him.

I hope the next piece of new involving Pete Wentz is entitled "Pete Wentz mysteriously vanishes,kerrang readers celebrate"
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finally!

that would beh awesome
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finally!

how about

"pete wents suffocates and dies after shoving his head WAY too far up his arse

or

pete wentz mauled to death by his bulldog of a wife
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finally!

but then again, if he goes missing, we'll have a day by day diary of how the 'search for pete wentz' is going
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finally!

Like when that muppet from the Manic Street Preachers decided to take a dive off a bridge.
Every fucking week for I don't know how long there was a "He's been missing for X amount of days" thing.

God knows what they'd do with Wentz.
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finally!

it would probably be an hour by hour update... oh joy

i think we should hire someone to kill him, possibly someone who has nothing left to live for or who desperately wants to be named a hero (killing wentz being the heroic bit)

then we'd solve that fangirl problem too
they couldnt live without their 'future husband' who doesnt even know they exist, and the result being a mass suicide of stupid annoying children who put a bad name on bands both good and incredibly awful too

and plus, i think we'd be doing fall out boy a favour by killing him, they'd get more fall out buy related attention than just "pete wentz and friends'
if anyone would even want to hear from them again
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finally!

But then we'd have the Wentz Martyrdom thing going on - like Cobain, Diamond Darell - do you really want the whole "Pete Wentz died for our sins" crap?

Your hero'd have to kill him, but make it look like Wentz died doing something truly evil - so as to remove any sympathy for him, and to shock his fan club into mass suicide at how they were fans of such a monster.

How about arranging it that he was helping that mad Austrian keep his daughter in the cellar?
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ahh true ....

but at least the fangirl/buy problem would be solved =]..or if we just got the dude to assasinate pete from the roof of a building in the street with a sniper rifle?... that way he CANT die for our sins and all that shite becuase he never saw the bullet coming?
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Yeah but then there would the whole "Who Killed Pete Wentz?" thing. Theres no easy way to get rid of a fully fledged cunt like him.
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finally!

it was ASHLEE!!! =O

HAHA
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You couldn't make it stick. Everyone knows she would simply have mimed taking the shot while someone else pulled the trigger.
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Isn't Wentz's label an imprint of Fueled By Ramen?
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less than jake

if pete did not give a f**k about music than how did panic at the disco achieve so much to this day
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less than jake

Hahaha :D

Your little Hero Wentzy, eh?

You don't even know what band he is in you silly cock.

Just shows how stupid all these little fan girls are.
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less than jake are getting sooo much attention from this so eff you their just jealous im going ....!
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ha.

fall out boy suck. but people who say they hate pete wentz who havent met him are pathetic.
&anyone who reckons fall out boy are better then ym@6 deserve to be shot.
you are all gay. and the day a holocaust of you people and chavs comes, the world will be so much better.

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ha.

i have looked at your comment, and i have to say why don't you shut the fuck up, i totally 100% disagree with you, my opinon of you is just that you seem like a prick. fall out boy are better than what you are saying, and they are much more better than you, at least thety're somebody and have made it big unlike a twat like you. Feel free to email on my email address.
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ha.

yeah, fall out boy suck, thats about all i agree with on you. Pete Wentz is a fully fldged cunt, theres no 2 ways about it, you dont need to know him personally to work that out

lol there'd be no people left apart from the hippies if that holocaust happened
the world would be so much better if everyone could accept other's opinions but thats just not possible with the likes of some cunts on here

so i guess you're just gonna have to acept that the world is not at peace and you me at six suck badly and are an insult to music, and i guess now theres gonna be about 600 twelve year olds baying for my blood because i called their favourite band shit
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FALL OUT BOY ARE SHIT!

right on Less Than Jake! Fall Out Boy?
more like Sell Out Boy.

FALL OUT BOY ARE NOT FUCKING ROCK NO MORE, THEY'RE FUCKING HIP-HOP!!! SO WHY DOES KERRANG STILL LIKE TEM??
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FALL OUT BOY ARE SHIT!

because kerrang would do anything for a story... remember the 'wentz gets a dog' article posted by dan?
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ha.

i love how people took my comment seriously,
you're all gay bastards who actually give a shit about life:)
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oh &

if you're judging you me at six on gossip and if i were in your shoess then yeah they suck
but the rest of their songs are fucking amazing!
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LOL

Punk is crap.
Power Chords woo hoo.

Fall Out Boy?

Excellence in failure.

Listen to metal.
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you're all

a bnch of emo bastards that need to lightten upp
use anger and violence in happiness :)
haa you all make me LOL at how seriously you actually take the lives of muscial disgraces like FOB

burn in hell bitches, that's where i'll be.
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you're all

a bnch of emo bastards that need to lightten upp
use anger and violence in happiness :)
haa you all make me LOL at how seriously you actually take the lives of muscial disgraces like FOB

burn in hell bitches, that's where i'll be.
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you're all

a bnch of emo bastards that need to lightten upp
use anger and violence in happiness :)
haa you all make me LOL at how seriously you actually take the lives of muscial disgraces like FOB

burn in hell bitches, that's where i'll be.
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you're all

a bnch of emo bastards that need to lightten upp
use anger and violence in happiness :)
haa you all make me LOL at how seriously you actually take the lives of muscial disgraces like FOB

burn in hell bitches, that's where i'll be.
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you're all

a bnch of emo bastards that need to lightten upp
use anger and violence in happiness :)
haa you all make me LOL at how seriously you actually take the lives of muscial disgraces like FOB

burn in hell bitches, that's where i'll be.
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finally someone speaks out against this crime against music that is pete wentz / fall out boy!

he offends me in so many ways
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I agree with LTJ, there are a few bands that are coming out that pretty much are thrown into the media by people, who don't give a shit what they are like. Bands need to take control of their music and how they want to be shown to the world. This is why mainstream rock music is really shit atm like Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance. Pete Wentz is pretty much the show off, I wannabe famous twat, that shows that he is a shit musician but only on TV because the record label want him to be there billboard as it were. Rock is about passion not fashion as h20 say and I agree
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Fall Out Twat.

FOB rock, Wentz Sucks. End of. He just a twat ok.
Im right, so dont bother arguing :)


peace x
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PETE WENTZ IS GOD !!!

Pete Wentz is a fucking God !!! All hail before him !!!

He has made life worth living !!!

I SAY YAY PETE !!!
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PETE WENTZ IS GOD !!!

i seriously hope thats sarcasm youre using there

if not, youre really hilarious!
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LESS THAN JAKE - legends


OMG!

lessthan jake are legends way better than fall out boy though i like them to

ALL MY BEST FRIENDS ARE METALHEADS - insane song best ever!
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