Emo and goth to be made illegal in Russia

The Russian government is in the process of drafting a law to make emo and goth music illegal.

Last month a parliamentary committee was convened to discuss a draft proposal of the Russian government's Government Strategy In The Sphere Of Spiritual And Ethical Education bill, the details of which were leaked to The Moscow Times. The newspaper subsequently reported that, among other things, the draft bill dubbed the musical movements a "dangerous teen trend" and called for emo and goth websites to be regulated and young people dressing like emos or goths to be banned from entering schools and government buildings.

The newspaper interviewed one of the bill's authors, Igor Ponkin from the Russian Interior Ministry's Public Oversight Council. Ponkin called emo a "social danger" and "a threat to national stability" and said the bill is a reaction to teen suicides such as the tragic death of British teenager Hannah Bond.

"This type of behaviour is a crucial part of emo ideology," said Ponkin. "Of course there are emo teens who just listen to their music. But our actions are not directed at them but rather at those who also hurt themselves, commit suicide and promote those acts."

The Moscow Times also interviewed psychologist Inna Cherkova who said:

"Suicide is not a symptom of emo culture. I work with other teens too, and every group has emotionally troubled kids."

However, the bill is expected to become law in Russia before the end of the year.


 
Posted by Dan at 06:10PM | July 23, 2008

that is fuckin dispicable

Posted by thecazmaster | July 23, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply to this
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i think russia are wasting their time 2bh yea there are worse things happening in the world..
but i also think emo's sud get a grip on their lives, russia are obviously doing this for a reason....
:)

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wow, u pp, really believe that in a democratic goverment like russia, that they can make a law like that, its agenst the law there, so if u idots stop and think for one sec, u would c that this web site is makeing up bullshit. the moscow times never wrote an artical. I FUCKING LIVE IN RUSSIA. u american fools, never ever even listen to facts but bullshit like this.

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Lulz, Russia democratic? Don't a dumbass. Go away and study yourself some political analysis.

They might have dropped the ball with communism, but hats off to them with this one.

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@Will: Actually, the Moscow Times did report it, on the 17th July. Go to www-Themoscowtimes-dot-com, and do a search in the search box for emo goth ban, it's one of the first links coming up.
Get your facts straight next time before you scream abuse. And BTW, kerrang is a british website, so if anything, call us british fools! Twat!

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We're not American, we're British. Dumbass.

Posted by maggotofbodom | July 24, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply to this
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And yet you say "dumbASS" instead of dumbARSE...

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Dumbass is the more common way of spelling it anyways.
American or British.

Besides, it technically means dumb donkey, so it's still valid as an insult. =]

Posted by Kiwi | July 24, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply to this
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so stfu, DUMBASS

Posted by monkeyjizz | July 25, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply to this
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Even worse :-P

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you would think that nobody else in western civilization used a computer but the united states...so here is fuck off, from Canada eh

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correct me if im wrong here but to me this lookslike the moscow times website.... and a story about emo music..

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correct me if im wrong here but to me this lookslike the moscow times website.... and a story about emo music.. http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/1010/42/368995.htm

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correct me if im wrong here but to me this lookslike the moscow times website.... and a story about emo music.. http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/1010/42/368995.htm

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correct me if im wrong now but this loks like the moscow times website with a story about emo music.... http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/1010/42/368995.htm

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Russia democratic? Putin calls Russia a sovereign democracy, he may no longer be president but he's priminister so he still runs the country. Russia is corrupt, moscow may have billionairs mainly through oil, who are involved with the government and use money as power. they reap everything they can from the public for the benefit. You will see in time what I mean. Russia is a dictatorship with a democracy's coat on. What was with the whole over the top military display on V.E day too? definately a display of power than celebration. Full of outdated weaponry. Russia need's to keep their 50 year old bear planes out of UK airspace too, our jets have intercepted them a few times now. Russia is upto something. They don't have the technology in weaponry to match that of the UK or the US and thier allies. Banning emo and goth is just another small step in total public control, Putin= Stalin.

rant over.

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lmfao
russia doesnt compate to the uk or us with weponary, ya wanna know why cuz they would woop our fuckin ass's. they've just test a 550kiloton nuke ffs and what does the uk have 12 nuclear subs that have been decomissioned, still in the process of building that nuke protecter and if we do build that we fuckd as they said they would nuke us. so russia would win this war if there ever was.

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You're a fucking idiot. Learn some grammar, toolbag.

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Oh Jesus Christ, Get the fuck over yourself. "you American fools"? At least in America we don't have to wait in line a month for a roll of fucking toilet paper, asshat. This "website" (an extension of a ROCK MUSIC MAGAZINE) Would never make anything up, they're a very reliable news source and the only time they ever posted bullshit was on April Fools day. I'm not surprised in the least that the government of Russia would do something so prejudiced, foolish and pretentious as this. And you're an ace mother fucking example of a typical Russian, asshole. Set a better example for your country and get your facts straight.

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just to say, this is an english magazine not american

Posted by Nat | July 28, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply to this
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ITS TRUE IDIOT

IT'S TRUE, IT'S IN THE MOSCOW TIMES: http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1010/42/368995.htm
DONT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF IDIOTS IN GOVERNMENT.

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They didn't? then go read for yourself: http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1010/42/368995.htm

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Yeah it's stupid, but people will find a way around it I think.

Soon we'll have a whole new race of what-ever-will-replace-emos, to annoy us all instead! muahaha!!

Posted by Raychelllll | July 25, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply to this
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wow

well A. i think that is totall bullshit because this is a third party resource, there was no artical about banning emo's, its just a god dam rumor, and if u idots believe this shit, then u need to get some help. B its a democracy there were ppl have the freedom of speech, it would be illigial to pass that law. C suicidal emos should get help.

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wow

http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1010/42/368995.htm

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fucking nonsens!

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WTF

If anyone has read battle royale then theyll agree that this sounds like japan in tht book..banning everything tht the government doesnt like, russias in poverty and they concentrate on music? how is tht gona stop people listening to it? its like under age smoking or drinkin, its illegal but its happening

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Russia is not in poverty. Moscow for instance has the most billionaires in one city than any other city in the world. Before you make ignorant comments please visit the place or educate yourself before making such statements.

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Actually, Russia is in poverty. Just because a priviliged few are rolling in it does not mean that the rest of society is doing so well or above the poverty line. By your reasoning, all American's would be wealthy because America is a wealthy country. Not true though is it... Try and deal with your own ignorance first before lecturing others on theirs mate.

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Actually, Russia is in poverty. Just because a priviliged few are rolling in it does not mean that the rest of society is doing so well or above the poverty line. By your reasoning, all American's would be wealthy because America is a wealthy country. Not true though is it... Try and deal with your own ignorance first before lecturing others on theirs mate.

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The number of billionairs in the capital does not reflect the wealth of an average citizen. 20% of Russians live below poverty line.

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The number of billionairs in the capital does not reflect the wealth of an average citizen. 20% of Russians live below poverty line.

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The number of billionairs in the capital does not reflect the wealth of an average citizen. 20% of Russians live below poverty line.

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illegalised emo/goth music...

well what can i say. its fucking pathetic, yeah im not an emo, im not a goth, but i do like some "goth" music. but to outlaw it is stupid, youy cant make a certain type of music illegal just because people commit suicide. its pathetic. russias government needs to grow up and hopefully at least let the people have a say in what theyre doing.

WANKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

matgrego

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illegalised emo/goth music...

well what can i say. its fucking pathetic, yeah im not an emo, im not a goth, but i do like some "goth" music. but to outlaw it is stupid, youy cant make a certain type of music illegal just because people commit suicide. its pathetic. russias government needs to grow up and hopefully at least let the people have a say in what theyre doing.

WANKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

matgrego

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This whole scene is bullshit

Ok this is just stupid because. first of all the girl killed her self over some damn gloves not because of MCR. Second of all Russia has bigger problems than trying to protect its people from a fucking scene thats gonna die out next year GOSH PEOPLE!!!

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i know
its a joke how far this has went

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exactally, why do they think that emo's and goths are like evil bad people that just want to die when you get all these neds and chavs running around the streets wanting to hurt people and do drugs and fuck about basically and they think emo is worse well what a load of bullshit!!!!

Posted by Aynz | July 27, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply to this
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emo

Im a english girl who lives in chavy london,walthamstow and in nearly every day me and my mates get abuse from chavs rude comments just from walking the streets based on the way we dress and how are make-up and hair is!! And how can you say that all emp's and goth's all wanna commit suicide thats so stupid!! cant you give people the wright to express there emotions through there music style and dress. the thing in russia is a stop to peoples freedom of choice and is wrong!! people are more likely to commit suicide due to the limit of freedom!! and dont bloody forget emo's and goth's are not the ones causing havock on the streets.....it's the chavs!! why are'nt they banned in russia there the ones causing the trouble!!

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Im a english girl who lives in chavy london,walthamstow and in nearly every day me and my mates get abuse from chavs rude comments just from walking the streets based on the way we dress and how are make-up and hair is!! And how can you say that all emp's and goth's all wanna commit suicide thats so stupid!! cant you give people the wright to express there emotions through there music style and dress. the thing in russia is a stop to peoples freedom of choice and is wrong!! people are more likely to commit suicide due to the limit of freedom!! and dont bloody forget emo's and goth's are not the ones causing havock on the streets.....it's the chavs!! why are'nt they banned in russia there the ones causing the trouble!!

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Im a english girl who lives in chavy london,walthamstow and in nearly every day me and my mates get abuse from chavs rude comments just from walking the streets based on the way we dress and how are make-up and hair is!! And how can you say that all emp's and goth's all wanna commit suicide thats so stupid!! cant you give people the wright to express there emotions through there music style and dress. the thing in russia is a stop to peoples freedom of choice and is wrong!! people are more likely to commit suicide due to the limit of freedom!! and dont bloody forget emo's and goth's are not the ones causing havock on the streets.....it's the chavs!! why are'nt they banned in russia there the ones causing the trouble!!

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Im a english girl who lives in chavy london,walthamstow and in nearly every day me and my mates get abuse from chavs rude comments just from walking the streets based on the way we dress and how are make-up and hair is!! And how can you say that all emp's and goth's all wanna commit suicide thats so stupid!! cant you give people the wright to express there emotions through there music style and dress. the thing in russia is a stop to peoples freedom of choice and is wrong!! people are more likely to commit suicide due to the limit of freedom!! and dont bloody forget emo's and goth's are not the ones causing havock on the streets.....it's the chavs!! why are'nt they banned in russia there the ones causing the trouble!!

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emo /law

if the government wants to solve to problem of depression
1 try harder to tackle bullying
and 2 give one to one helpp to the people that need it
there for i believe that all this bulshit will not go ahead

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That is the stupidist thing i have ever heard

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LOL

Does anyone really care?

Russia is not a normal western democracy, putin is ex KGB evil, this is no worse than some of the chineese rules asides it's funny.

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dont diss the emo's or goth's this russia thing is bull shit

let emo's and goth's express there fukkin emotios man is it a crime to be in to certain music and clothes!!! leave them alone... in russia there most likely to feel like outcasts now cos of the stupid law so stop being such idiots by banning the music!! or u can watch the suicides to RISE!!! wot the fuck is banning it gonna do but make teens feel unwanted and alone !!

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emo and goth illegal WTF

i come from london and if emo and goth was made illegal here it would be so retarded as the chavs would think they have won and enyway whos the one going out and stabbing people in gangs and causing trouble in gangs i don't think it's the emo's and goth's it's the chavs and wannabe gangsters so why don't they be banned. why do me and my mates have to have abuse thrown at us when we walk outside our own front door by them and nothing is done and we don't cause eny trouble or enything we just like the music we do and dress the way we do. so i think chav should be made illegal in russia........ no actually everywhere

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Emo guyz

Niiiiiice! yeah i love russian gouvernement !!

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Emo guyz

oh and why?

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the emo subject

I'm not emo but i have emo friends. and tbh i think its just discusting, if Russian 'emos' are as dedicated to there music as me then i think the death count will hit top!
It's blaitenly going to be the next racial thing like,
'emos or goths to be banned from entering schools and government buildings.' Thats not penolising people?
The press and government shoult just fuck off. we don't tell them how to wear there ties or what colour suit they should wear. My solution. All turn 'scene' live the trashy life style STAY SLUDGE
Sorry for like replying this i have no idea how to post comments like
xoxo

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At least MCR won't have to waste their time over there anymore becuase of the narrow-minded people who say they are "Emo"!

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shut it fool

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what ever happened to the old russian communism that everyone had the right to be equal. Is this equality. its against human rights.

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what ever happened to the old russian communism that everyone had the right to be equal. Is this equality. its against human rights.

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y r u so pissed of with emos the emo bands rule and there is nothing rong with it so russia it is rong watever

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y r u so pissed of with emos the emo bands rule and there is nothing rong with it so russia it is rong watever

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This is stupid.. it's only gonna promote emo culture in the eyes of kids. Like smoking or drinking with the age limits. Deny them something and they'll want it. Russia's just gonna be overflowing with the twats if they go ahead with this.
Furthermore, the distinguishing between em is gonna be fucked up, people get mistaken all the time. Hell, I'm 20 I'm a metalhead, and know a fair few punks and emos too, and I can't tell the difference between them half the time. And I wear all black, metal studs on my belt, have long black hair, and am planning to get piercings just like a description of an "emo" given by a government official on topic about this somewhere else, so I'm the opposite of an emo and I fit the discription? A lot of emos I know wear any colour, a lot of them are making their own new culture, chemo.. chav cross emo. Then theres people who are in between listening to light metal and emo. I hate emo, but they do sad and happy songs just like any genre, its the expression of feelings as all all music with lyrics is. Emos just do it in a really annoying whiny voice, and the psychiatrist was right, it's also any group of kids has its depressed ones.
But seriously, even if they managed to get this in action, it wouldn't work. It's like trying to draw a box with 3 lines. You can create the illusion it works, but theres allways gonna be a gaping hole in it.

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i agree

i agree i mean there are worst thigs in this fuckin world than a couple o kids dressin how they want and listenin to wat they want and wen they say dress like an emo if they mean skinnies i know loads of chavs and girly girls in mi tutor alone that were em all the time . the goverment has no right to impose on they way we dress or the music we listen to if any music should b band it should b rap !

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OMG

that is sooo stupid i cant believe it

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bout time i say

get rid of these pathetic pansy ass emos !

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bout time i say

well said!!! emo is whats made kerrang the pile of crap it is today!

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bout time i say

If Emo Is What Made Kerrang a Pile Of Crap Why Are You On This Site?

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bout time i say

yes, because they clearly have a dramatic effect on your life

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bout time i say

totally agree! bring back the good ol rock n roll

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bout time i say

You are sooo stuck mate, its people like who interfear with individual rights about how we dress. Why can't people like you just fuck off and let us dress how we want, whether its emo fashion or whatever!

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bout time i say

You are sooo stuck mate, its people like who interfear with individual rights about how we dress. Why can't people like you just fuck off and let us dress how we want, whether its emo fashion or whatever!

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You are sooo stuck mate, its people like who interfear with individual rights about how we dress. Why can't people like you just fuck off and let us dress how we want, whether its emo fashion or whatever!

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Fuck.

They are treating it like it's a fucking cult and all it is a fad. People need to grow up.

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Fuck.

they are grown up and more mature than practicaly every person who posts on this website
open your fuvking eyes and see what is happening, kids are self harming to be popular, is there any need? no
i agree its a good law to prevent kids from being pressured into self harming whereas i believe the music has nothing to do with depression, yea i listen to death metal etc. i dont self harm, i dont see why i need to pain for pleasure? not really, pain for the scars and the popularity
also to those that think russia is wasting thier time, no their protecting their people of tomorrow, protecting the child that could be the next leader, the next inventor etc.
enough said its worth a trial

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Fuck.

they are grown up and more mature than practicaly every person who posts on this website
open your fuvking eyes and see what is happening, kids are self harming to be popular, is there any need? no
i agree its a good law to prevent kids from being pressured into self harming whereas i believe the music has nothing to do with depression, yea i listen to death metal etc. i dont self harm, i dont see why i need to pain for pleasure? not really, pain for the scars and the popularity
also to those that think russia is wasting thier time, no their protecting their people of tomorrow, protecting the child that could be the next leader, the next inventor etc.
enough said its worth a trial

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Emo and Goth Illegalized...

What right does the russion government have to discriminate and tell individuals how to lead there life?

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Emo and Goth Illegalized...

The Russian government has as much right as they like, Russia is a comunist country where the government chooses everything where as we are in a democracy where we can choose what happens and vote against things

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Emo and Goth Illegalized...

The music will just go 'underground' you cant illegalize the taste of the people.

Posted by vazzer | July 24, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply to this
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Exactly.
As if people are going to stop listening to their favourite type of music!

Posted by Sian | July 26, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply to this
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Emo and Goth Illegalized...

How many idiots still think Russia is Communist? Raise your hands, please!The Russians stupidly dumped the Dictatorship of the Proletariat sometime ago. They've got a "pariimentary" gvt now, like the slaves in the UK.

Posted by V.I. Lenin | July 25, 2008 3:49 AM | Reply to this
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How many idiots still think Russia is Communist? Raise your hands, please!The Russians stupidly dumped the Dictatorship of the Proletariat sometime ago. They've got a "pariimentary" gvt now, like the slaves in the UK.

Posted by V.I. Lenin | July 25, 2008 3:49 AM | Reply to this
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Yh too right, i am 100% rocker/emo/goth/thrash/death metal fan, i hate r'n'b/dance/pop/ragga/rap, this is what should be illegalised, is this promotes knife and gun crime more than rockers music, what is wrong with the world, i say rid the world of fucking chavs!

Posted by mandy yearley | July 26, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply to this
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Emo and Goth Illegalized...

true, if we rid the world of chavs, we would solve nearly ALL crime cases, the crime rate would fall, teenage pregnancies would be a thing of the past, and good music wouldnt be discriminated against

i have been attaked a couple of times because i listen to rock/emo/metal/screamo, and thats by chavs
and im only 14
i think that if we illegalised rap/rnb/pop and those genres or just stopped producing music with any threatening lyrics or anything that promoted murder and idolisation of weapons as fashion accessories, then it would be alot better, but in the state that things are in with gang crimes, a boy i knew was killed last week across the estate to me, that was due to gang wars.

i think that the russian government are being fucking idiots here, theyre trying to illegalise the music that doesnt cause crime, the music that the good teenagers listen to, has anyone else noticed how almost no crimes are committed by people in the goth/emo stereotype?
and yet they still allow the music that encourages teens to attack each other, and potentially kill each other too to go un noticed in society, its almost as if they are asking teenagers to act like irresponsible cunts, and its almost like people enjoy paying for damages costs caused by anti-social cunts

i think i speak for everyone when i say that the REAL social threats here are chavs/gangster kids

Posted by Annie | July 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply to this
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Emo and Goth Illegalized...

'Chav' is too generic a term - how would you ban chavs? What defines them? Is it just anyone who iseen as poor and illeducated in a track suit?

I'm not picking a fight, I just think the whole 'blame the chavs' attitude is just as ill informed as the the 'all emos cut themselves' attitude. I've had the shit kicked out of me for being a goth before, and guess what? It was a group of Cambridge University students.

Posted by The Toad | July 26, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply to this
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i know where your coming from, and i do actually realise that now that the term 'chav' was too generic, i do have friends who are chavs, and my sister is one too, but they are the ones who are actually willing to do something with their lives.

to me, the ones that should be banned are the ones that just beat the shit out of you for the pure fun of it, the ones who binge drink per night, the ones who steal from anyone and everyone, and the ones who have children at 13 and think they are responsible because they have a baby - those sorts of people are the ones that dont deserve freedom

wow, i cant believe that... cambridge students?
you would have thought that if they were at that fucking university then they wouldnt be doing shit like that to jeopardise their placement there... thats shocking

Posted by Annie | July 26, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply to this
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Emo and Goth Illegalized...

Intelligence and social standing are not indicators of how nice people are, sadly. No matter what group you look in, there'll always be some arseholes. I'll bet there are emos who aren't particularly nice out there...

It's human nature to form groups and to be suspicious of those outside of it. People are better, well, human beings, when they manage to get past that.

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yeah true i guess
there are alot of emo/scene/mosher arseholes out there for sure, and theres also some nice ones

i think everyone just needs to look for the good and the bad in all people, reguardless of stereotypes or image... but wih some people its just impossible to see any good in them

there are quite a few emos out there who can only be described as cunts

true say, it is natural to be paranoid, and suspicious about other groups, because you dont know what they are doing. and it makes you uneasy and can make you jump to conclusions, hence "all emos slit their wrists" and "all chavs are knife wielding fuckers"
those statements are what people expect of the stereotype, and so that is what everyone is lead to believe about it

in a way, everybody is at fault, you've got the outsiders judging what they dont know, the insiders dismissing these roumers .. but with a few of them giving exactly what everyone else expects (eg. emos cutting thier wrists- only a few do it, but the whole group is blamed / chavs beating others for pleasure - only a few do it, but then the whole stereotype is blamed

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oh my god.

that's fucking pathetic.

social danger my god damn arse.

the world's got far more problems than a group of people who actually show some emotion.

adults are bloody stupid sometimes. its only music, people who die because theyre 'emo' have problems.

urgh.

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more bull shit

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wtf?

This has got to be a joke. Seriously.

It's nothing to do with a 'cult' or people hating on emos/goths/moshers - whatever. Whether you like these stereotypes or not... this is plain fucking stupid.

There's much much MUCH more fucked up and dangerous things in the world than what music people listen to and how they dress.

Russia-why waste your fucking time.

What the hell is wrong with the world...

Posted by Layna | July 23, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply to this
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wtf?

This has got to be a joke. Seriously.

It's nothing to do with a 'cult' or people hating on emos/goths/moshers - whatever. Whether you like these stereotypes or not... this is plain fucking stupid.

There's much much MUCH more fucked up and dangerous things in the world than what music people listen to and how they dress.

Russia-why waste your fucking time.

What the hell is wrong with the world...

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wtf?

This has got to be a joke. Seriously.

It's nothing to do with a 'cult' or people hating on emos/goths/moshers - whatever. Whether you like these stereotypes or not... this is plain fucking stupid.

There's much much MUCH more fucked up and dangerous things in the world than what music people listen to and how they dress.

Russia-why waste your fucking time.

What the hell is wrong with the world...

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Well that`s just bogus! Hopefully someone will be brave enough to step up and do something to get rid of this stupid law!

Posted by Tabby the Nutter | July 23, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply to this
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oh my god.

that's fucking pathetic.

social danger my god damn arse.

the world's got far more problems than a group of people who actually show some emotion.

adults are bloody stupid sometimes. its only music, people who die because theyre 'emo' have problems.

urgh.

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oh my god.

why dont you fukkin emo log touchers hang your selves with your gehy ass skin tight jeans

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oh my god.

why dont you fukkin emo log touchers hang your selves with your gehy ass skin tight jeans

Posted by HashboyUK | July 24, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply to this
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WHAT THE FUCK!

What on earth is going on in russia, they don't have a right to stop something that teenagers enjoy, and it's not a dangerous subculture, russia has gone fucking nuts!

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WHAT THE FUCK!

are you implying teenagers enjoy hurting them self? :|
cause if you are then thats sick mate, just wrong

Posted by conna | July 24, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply to this
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WHAT THE FUCK!

What on earth is going on in russia, they don't have a right to stop something that teenagers enjoy, and it's not a dangerous subculture, russia has gone fucking nuts!

Posted by Adam Chabbi | July 23, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply to this
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thats fucking stupid
it aint fair to stop people dressing how they want to and listening to music they like.

one of my mates used to self-harm and they were the complete opostite of emo/goth

the russian goverment needs to get their fucking heads checked out

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omg that is fucking rediculous
they are destroying peoples right to be themselves
even if they think they are 'Helping people' do they really think that making it illegal is gonna really stop anything
if anyhting it'll make things worse
people will start to rebel
i hope they're prepared for that

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Thats just the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard!!!!

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Wtf?!
The world is fucked up.
No wounder we're all gonners :/

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oh my god.

that's fucking pathetic.

social danger my god damn arse.

the world's got far more problems than a group of people who actually show some emotion.

adults are bloody stupid sometimes. its only music, people who die because theyre 'emo' have problems.

urgh.

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Thats just the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard!!!!

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Thats just the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard!!!!

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Thats outragous its the fuckin chavs they should be bloody stopping there the people who carry weapons "just to make them look hard"

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agree!

i agree, they are the ones who make me feel unsafe and scared!

Posted by Adam Chabbi | July 23, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply to this
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Those chavs

I agree THEY are the ones who should be stopped, they're usually the ones who cause trouble moreless than any other culture/sub-culture in my opinion
If anything, the cure for chavs has a spot at the top of my list

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oh my god.

that's fucking pathetic.

social danger my god damn arse.

the world's got far more problems than a group of people who actually show some emotion.
if you look into it, people kill themselves because they have real probelms.

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omg that is fucking rediculous
they are destroying peoples right to be themselves
even if they think they are 'Helping people' do they really think that making it illegal is gonna really stop anything
if anyhting it'll make things worse
people will start to rebel
i hope they're prepared for that

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WHAT THE FUCK!

What on earth is going on in russia, they don't have a right to stop something that teenagers enjoy, and it's not a dangerous subculture, russia has gone fucking nuts!

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that's fucking pathetic! please, the government have no fucking idea do they? they need to grow. that's like saying "oh, we're gonna ban cheese cos its yellow."
fuck off!

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This is just pathetic
If it does become law, i reckon everyone should rebel :]
This really is the stupidest thing i've heard. They can't tell people who to live their lives :|

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Wtf?!
The world is fucked up.
No wounder we're all gonners :/

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that's fucking pathetic! please, the government have no fucking idea do they? they need to grow. that's like saying "oh, we're gonna ban cheese cos its yellow."
fuck off!

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ha.

not too much of a fan of emo music but that's goin a bit too far tbh.
:/

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ha.

not too much of a fan of emo music but that's goin a bit too far tbh.
:/

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EVERY GENRE OF MUSIC HAS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE INFLUENCES, BUT I DONT BELIEVE THAT EMO MUSIC WILL CAUSE TEENAGERS TO COMMIT SUICIDE!
IT IS JUST A FORM OF EXPESSING THEIR ANGUISH!
IT HELPS THEM DEAL WITH HOW THEY FEEL. THE RUSSIAN GOVERMENT IS KIDDING THEMSELVES IF THEY THINK BANING EMO/GOTH MUSIC WILL STOP FANS.

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ha.

not too much of a fan of emo music but that's goin a bit too far tbh.
:/

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wtf?

This has got to be a joke. Seriously.

It's nothing to do with a 'cult' or people hating on emos/goths/moshers - whatever. Whether you like these stereotypes or not... this is plain fucking stupid.

There's much much MUCH more fucked up and dangerous things in the world than what music people listen to and how they dress.

Russia-why waste your fucking time.

What the hell is wrong with the world...

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That’s fucking ridiculous. It’s about the most stupid thing I’ve heard in a long time.

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EMO/GOTH RULES

EVERY GENRE OF MUSIC HAS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE INFLUENCES, BUT I DONT BELIEVE THAT EMO MUSIC WILL CAUSE TEENAGERS TO COMMIT SUICIDE!
IT IS JUST A FORM OF EXPESSING THEIR ANGUISH!
IT HELPS THEM DEAL WITH HOW THEY FEEL. THE RUSSIAN GOVERMENT IS KIDDING THEMSELVES IF THEY THINK BANING EMO/GOTH MUSIC WILL STOP FANS.

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